BREAKING: NJ Governor Chris Christie Vetoes Gay-Marriage Bill

The AP reports that Gov. Chris Christie has vetoed New Jersey’s gay-marriage bill, which passed through the Assembly yesterday and the state Senate on Monday.

Other gay things he did this week:

*Went to a WrestleMania match to watch men in tights pretend to hit each another.

*Had dinner with Donald and Melania Trump  at fancy New York eatery Jean Georges. The chef would not, however, honor Christie’s request to drizzle Cheez Whiz over his entree, dinner and dessert.

*Lowered state flags to half-mast in honor of Whitney Houston. Apparently, he cries like a bitch every time “Greatest Love Of All” comes on.

Now that the governor has judged us, we think it’s perfectly justifiable for the gay community to judge Christie on attributes he (allegedly) has no control over.  You eat too much, Governor Christie, and the floodgates are open for lowbrow fat jokes about you.

Here’s one to get the balling rolling: The only same-sex union Chris Christie supports is the one between Ben & Jerry’s.

Leave yours in the comments.

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  • BLSR

    Governor Chris Christie is so fat, the next season of Jersey Shore is taking place on his ass.

  • Malky

    Dumb fat fuck. He’s going to pay for doing this.

  • Isaac C

    “Now that Christie has made his personal preference on our private issues known, it’s time for the gay community to call him out on his private issues—you eat too much, Governor Christie, and we’re now totally justified in making lowbrow fat jokes about you.”

    This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I’ve read here. No, you don’t have free license to insult someone just because you didn’t get your way. What is wrong with you? You should not be encouraging that at all. How dare you.

    And his “personal preference” has to do with him wanting the people to decide. You seem to want to take the politics out of it and make it a personal attack on Christie himself, which is ridiculous. Shame on you.

  • Kev C

    Gov. Christie cruises Piscataway late at night, looking for Twinkies and Ho Hos.

  • Jonathonz

    @Isaac C: No Isaac C. He has totally opened himself up to the wrath of the entire gay community and he deserves all the name-calling and fat jokes we can throw at him. He needs to understand that we are PISSED. I, for one, feel no compunction in calling him a fat fuck for the damage he has done today to LGBT young people, couples and families in the state of New Jersey and across the nation.

  • dazzer

    @Isaac C: You don’t get to be self-righteous here. Just looking at your argument, when the ‘people decide’, women don’t get the vote and black people don’t get the vote when ‘people decide’. Suffrage happens when the representative democracy and the curts decide. If you disagree with that, please tell every woman and every non-white person here that the reason they can claim equality is worthless.
    You brought up the ‘how dare you’ nonsense. Well, sunshine, how the hell dare you put uph up human rights to the vote?
    I mean really. That is the best you can come up with? And yet you accuse other people of being low-brow?
    And just for the record, Isaac C, Christie is fat as fuck. I am, too. But I’m trying to do something about it because I know it’s not a healthy way to live. I’m trying to do something about it.
    So, as one fat bastard to one fat defender, I’m telling you straight that Christie is one fat fuck and until he does something about it, mentioning his weight isn’t an insult, it’s it’s merely an observation.

  • ponies!!!!!!

    @Isaac C: You are aware that the rights of a minority should NEVER be brought to a vote, right? You reek of privilege and naivete.

  • Joe

    Krispy Kreme VETOES Chris Christie :-)

  • ryanthehulk

    Actually women got national suffrage after a popular movement (it took over 100 years) and blacks received the vote and citizenship via popular amendment (though we did have to fight a civil war to get all sides to agree with them and many dirty tricks were used to deny them for 100+ years afterwards)

    I agree 100% with you, those are just two examples where they were achieved by popular movements.

    Segregated public schools and anti interracial marriage laws were struck down by the courts though. :)

  • William

    Good for him, he will have his name listed in my future-child’s (Or Children’s) text book as one of the men who was on the wrong side of History.

    I hope you will be very alive to see that day Governor, although I am sure your doctors think differently.

  • keke

    Gov. Chris Christie is a bloated fat fuck!

  • CBRad

    He is soooooooooo fat…..

  • CBRad

    …he looks like Pam Spaulding in drag .

  • CBRad

    And soooooooooo fat, that….(okay, I don’t like fat jokes. I know some nice fat folk).

  • Charlie

    The only queen Chris Christie likes is Dairy Queen.

  • Hephaestion

    There will never be “liberty and justice for all” in any state with a Republican governor.

  • Trelin

    Did any of you really expect him to pass it? He made his position clear and he is going to stand by it. I think it’s disgusting that he believes he has the right to decided how the New Jersey LGBT community can live and love. He did give us the tiniest bone by saying it should be put to a vote (which makes me feel like an circus animal). I’m just surprised that some of you think that he was going to sign in into law. Especially since it’s likely he will be put on the bill with Romney come the elections. This secures his position on same-sex marriage, nationwide. Making him seem like a beacon of christian hope for the bible-toting bigots. Yet makes his also appear tolerant by allowing the state to vote. His advisers are not dumb, not by a long shot. He’s viciously sly. Christie has the followers and will ride this all the way to a nomination for president.

  • christopher di spirito

    Gov. Fatso is so fat, his favorite restaurant in town installed a sign that says: “Maximum Occupancy 350 Patrons OR Chris Christie.”

  • Isaac C

    @Jonathonz: You show that you are pissed by criticizing what he did and why he did it, not who he is or what he looks like. That’s foul.

    @dazzer: Because you are of the chunk does not give you the right to make fun of others who are fat as well.

    @ponies!!!!!!: NJ had civil unions. Tell me how gays were being denied rights in this state if the state already recognized their relationships at the state level? And don’t give me that “separate but equal” crap because it does not apply!

  • christopher di spirito

    Gov. Fatso is so fat, when he went to the Jersey Shore last summer, Greenpeace tried to drag his ass back in the water.

  • Dan Rodriguez

    Why all the fat references? The fact that he’s fat has nothing to do with his decision, it’s his stupid, backwards politics. You do realize there are all types of gays and gay supporters, right? Instead of pointing out his size, do something about it.

  • dazzer

    @Isaac C: Pointing out that someone is fat does not mean that you are making fun of him. I think he’s fat. I also think he doesn’t have to be fat. If you think Christie isn’t fat, or you think that there are reasons why he has no option but to be fat, then please put those arguments forward. If you can’t put forward something rational on either point, I suspect you think he’s fat, too. Pointing out reality isn’t an insult.
    So, unless you can suggest that Christie isn’t fat, let’s get to the substantive. As it stands at the moment, he’s a fat man refusing to accept the idea of a representative democracy.

  • Shannon1981

    @Isaac C: No shame in calling it like we see it. He is a fat homophobic prick, we call him a fat homophobic fit. We are friends of Dorothy, and if the ruby slipper fits…

  • CBRad

    @christopher di spirito: …and thirty-five people took a break from the sun in his shadow (..we gotta stop this..)

  • MickW

    Another white person stops same sex marriage from becoming legal, I love it.

  • todd

    Did anyone NOT see this coming? Anytime someone is willing to put to a vote the rights of other than it will always be a losing game, because that was the desired result in the first place. He knew damn well the only way to bust this and appease the Republican Party while washing his hands of the situation was a vote. Just another jerk in charge.

  • Shannon1981

    I thought putting civil rights to a vote was illegal anyway. Tyranny of the majority, anyone?

    This stupid fuck. NJ, impeach him.

  • Shannon1981

    @Isaac C: How does separate but not equal not apply? If straights can get married and gays can only get civil unioned, that is separated but not equal. We tried it with race with the segregation of the schools. Didn’t provide equality with that, won’t provide it with this. The man is a bigot. Are you really gay or just a troll?

  • Chuck

    OK, GOProud and all the closeted gay Republicans who read this site, tell us again how Democrats aren’t as good as Republicans on LGBT rights.

  • Danny

    He joins a very elite club – politicians who have used their political career ambitions to violate the human rights of hundreds of millions of people. Over two-thirds of the world’s population will have a gay family member, and over a third of the world’s population currently does.

    If everyone’s human rights are up for a vote, when does this group get to vote on other people’s human rights, since apparently you only have to outnumber people to violate their human rights, right?

  • christopher di spirito

    Gov. Fatso is ineligible to be president since the Air Force One 747 wasn’t refitted to carry feral pigs.

  • christopher di spirito

    @Isaac C: How dare you come here and admonish this community for dissing this fat, homophobic, New Jersey prick? Who do you think you are? If you feel so sorry Gov. Fatso is getting his ass walloped, send him a sympathy card.

    Better still, send him a coupon for a 5lbs. box of See’s Candy. He’ll have it devoured in an hour.


  • Brandon Kalyan

    Big is too light a term for him, he is a bigot. Shame on him, his actions and his beliefs as he spits on all the gay families in New Jersey that he has deprived and ripped them of their worth, humanity and dignity.

    I hope he is there to witness the LGBT families that suffer because of the economic burdens that would have been leaven by those “marital” benefits, I hope he’s there when a love one is denied access to their loved as he/she DIES on their hospital bed, I hope he’s there, proud of his actions because of his conceited values that dictates his actions.

    You personally disgust me today Governor Chris Christie, I hope you can walk with a straight face to each and every queer person you encounter while you’re in office with the same grimace as you sub-consciously acknowledge them that they are not worth to: love, family, commitment, respect and are not equal as is a heterosexual individual.

    Shame on you, I hope you don’t blow your position before your time because of some scandal that failed to have been affected by your virtues, but it wouldn’t matter since we view you here today as a hypocrite.

  • Isaac C

    @dazzer: Pointing it out IS an insult when it’s irrelevant to the discussion, as it is in this case.

    @Shannon1981: I consider separate but equal for race different from the case of marriage equality. I don’t think the comparison is appropriate. We’re talking simply about legal definitions, which there are ultimately ways around for committed gay couples, not substandard living and limitations apropos segregation, as it was with Jim Crow.

    Ultimately I am simply talking about the issue at the state level, and that is why it doesn’t make sense to argue that gays are being denied rights when they were already given them by NJ. Gays were denied a definition in NJ, but they were not denied “rights.”

    @christopher di spirito: “This community?” Really? So that’s the way it is? Apparently because I disagree with attacking someone because of their weight, I’m not a part of the community? Nevermind that I just MIGHT have overweight people in my family – and overweight friends – who I damn sure wouldn’t let one of you screaming queens disrespect this way just because you may disagree with them on something.

    I don’t feel sorry for Gov. Christie. What I have a problem with is people who attack others for their appearance when they themselves want (ideally) to be accepted by everyone and have equal rights, and not be picked on because of how they may appear or act. Open your eyes and look at yourself, because you are behaving like a pig.

  • Isaac C

    @dazzer: Pointing it out IS an insult when it’s irrelevant to the discussion, as it is in this case.

  • Isaac C

    @Shannon1981: I consider separate but equal for race different from the case of marriage equality. I don’t think the comparison is appropriate. We’re talking simply about legal definitions, which there are ultimately ways around for committed gay couples, not substandard living and limitations apropos segregation, as it was with Jim Crow.

    Ultimately I am simply talking about the issue at the state level, and that is why it doesn’t make sense to argue that gays are being denied rights when they were already given them by NJ. Gays were denied a definition in NJ, but they were not denied “rights.”

  • Scott Rose

    @Isaac C: But seriously? What did this gay-bashing hippo eat to get so much bigot blubber on his person? We should start a petition for a Toilet Seats Bill of Rights, just to keep Governor Krispy Creme from persecuting bathroom fixtures. Think of it this way; if you were a toilet, would you want that horrifying monster tuchus sitting down on you?

  • Isaac C

    @Scott Rose: I have never read such disrespect in my life!

  • Dolly

    the Only gays Christie likes are the Pillsbury Doughboi and the Chef Boi-R-D

  • tjr101

    We can always count on Isaac C to make excuses for the bigotry of his Republican party while at the same time showing up on other threads lambasting blacks for homophobia.

  • CBRad

    …soooooo fat that……….Two Barney Franks could fit into his suit.

  • Drew

    I’m not surprised at all.

  • Dave

    The state of New Jersey has had Civil Unions for awhile. A friend of mine married his now ex-husband in one.

    Secondly why is everyone surprised at this?

  • Shannon1981

    @Isaac C: The comparison is completely appropriate. Same thing, new version, different group of minority people.

  • B

    No. 37 · tjr101 wrote, “We can always count on Isaac C to make excuses for the bigotry of his Republican party …”

    Come off it guys – “Isaac C” in this case was responding to a rant consisting of nothing but middle-school trash talk. There’s plenty to criticize Christie for, starting with his excuse for using a veto to further his personal prejudices. You don’t have to call Christie a “hippo” as Scott did to do that. For one thing, it is insensitive and not fair to the hippopotamuses. none of whom have ever expressed an anti-gay opinion if only because none of them can speak. It would be similarly insulting to compare him to Jabba the Hutt – the Hutts (at least of the Jabba variety) ran the rackets in George Lucas’s films and no doubt had a business interest in gay porn and gay prostitution even though that was never mentioned on screen. Naturally they would not take kindly to baseless accusations that would annoy some of their customers and cause Jabba to lose money.

  • Isaac C

    @Shannon1981: The concept may be the same but the realities of the two minority groups are completely different, for the reasons I gave. On this I think we can agree. If not then we can agree to disagree :).

  • Al

    Ban Isaac C’s IP already. It’s a troll, along with being a complete dumbass.

  • Al

    Isaac must be new to America. He has yet to read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Poor thing.

  • Al

    @Isaac C: This coming from the guy who wrote “separate but equal crap”. Civil Unions are NOT equal, moron! They don’t amount to a hill of beans under the law in the US and outside of it, and why on Earth should gays be treated as second class citizens, where “marriage” is too sacred to have a bunch of degenerates attached to it?

    Marriage is a civil right. Look at the tax code, public benefits, rights to children, property, etc. etc.

    A minority’s rights are not to be put up for the majority vote. It’s illegal. Why can’t you get that through your skull? Courts are there to protect minorities. Minorities don’t have the numbers to fight back.

    We should put interracial marriage to a vote now. A bunch of states polled recently, would make it illegal if put to a public vote. I’m sure you’d be championing that result.

    Get some much needed help, and perhaps complete that GED.

  • Robert in NYC

    Isaac C doesn’t get it. He doesn’t understand why 10 countries abandoned the varying unequal forms of gay legal unions for civil marriage equality and growing at a steady rate. What we have seen with Christie is personal religious beliefs influencing a piece of civil legislation and pandering to the mob rule religious bullies. If they had their way, being gay would be illegal. He has NO concept of the 14th amendment of the constitution wherein the rights of the minority must be guaranteed and protected. Mob rule which is what the 14th amendment is all about, is undemocratic. In fact it’s what fascist regimes do. The votes of the peoples’ representatives in the legislatures no longer count. I wonder if he would welcome a referendum to make being gay illegal? Oh I forgot, republicans don’t consider human (civil) rights a top priority even in good economic times or that important. All they care about are fattening their portfolios, paying next to no taxes while the rest of society can go to hell in a handbasket.

  • Global Traveler

    …hands the menu to the waiter and says: “Yes.”

  • Robert in NYC

    @Chuck: Chuck, they ignore. Some of them voted for this bigot anyway and will continue to vote that way because even in good economic times, they still would not vote for any democrat who is for equality.

  • Robert in NYC

    @Chuck: Chuck, they ignore it. Some of them voted for this bigot anyway and will continue to vote that way because even in good economic times, they still would not vote for any democrat who is for equality.

  • Pete

    Since when did marriage become the #1 goal for LGBT people? I think it’s a very important one but ENDA should come first since this will help a lot more LGBT People since not all of us want to get married, in certain states and in some companies you can get fired or suffer harassment for being LGBT, and many states including NJ already have civil unions.

  • Glen

    Chris Christie is so fat his blood type is Ragu.

  • Right is Right

    @Pete: You are absolutely correct that civil unions are sufficient. Ironically, marriage is a religious ceremony, and not too many people on this site seem to be fond of religion. What’s up with that?

    @Shannon1981: Oh, Shannon Shannon Shannon. I’ve seen your picture. Do you really think calling Christie “fat” is appropriate? Isn’t that kind of like you calling Ellen Degeneres a “dyke”? Or Oprah Winfrey a “ho”? In all seriousness, unless you’re prepared to be peppered with the same juvenile attitudes, then I’d hold my tongue if I were you.

    @Isaac C: I’m with you, Isaac. It’s shameful how petty and churlish some of these people can be about someone’s appearance, simply because they have political differences. Sadly, I suspect these comments represent the majority of the gay community, which is a pretty good indication of why we’re still considered second-class by society. And although the individuals posting on this site may not realize it, their behavior only serves to drive a wedge deeper between straight and gay; you and I, on the other hand, are building bridges to those who normally wouldn’t associate with us, and are showing them that we’re not, in fact, like . . . well, like all of the other people writing posts on this site. Good for you (and me).

  • Tea & A

    Shame shame SHAME on Evan Mulvihill for giving the green light to encourage discrimination against fat people. Do you have any idea what you’ve done, dude? Holy shit. My (rather portly) roommate is about to shit himself over this. A simple call objecting to Christie’s ruling apparently wasn’t dirty enough for you. Thanks a lot, Evvie, for giving more ammo to an already angry group. You’re a real class act.

  • Chris

    @Right is Right, civil unions do not give the federal benefits of marriage – that is why civil unions are insufficient. And marriage is NOT about just religion – if that were true, then clergy would not have the power of civil marriage as well, which is what they grant in their marriage ceremonies. We are supposed to have religious and political power separated in this country, but we do not. If we did, we would be like Argentina, where a couple has to get a civil license for their marriage, which is separate from the church ceremony. As it stands now, churches use the power of the government to deny us rights by trying to prevent civil marriage of same-sex couples outside of their churches. That’s rank discrimination.

    On an aside, I agree with Pete that ENDA is more important and will affect more GLBT people, but I do not agree that civil unions are an appropriate remedy.

  • Picard

    So tired of the GOP using us as a community as pawns for there backward agendas.
    maybe we should start rioting in the streets, smashing windows and looting!
    We all know of other certain communities that wouldn’t tolerate this.

  • the crustybastard

    @Al: “Ban Isaac C’s IP already. It’s a troll…”

    Seconded. Obviously, the people have decided his opinion has no merit. Democracy! blah, blah, blah.

    C’mon. Fair is fair. He ought to get what he gives.

  • the crustybastard

    Study after study shows that obese people have profoundly higher-than-normal health risks, and die young. Children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves. Moreover, God created Adam and Eve, not Chris Christie and Maggie Gallagher. The Bible condemns gluttony as a terrible sin of greedy people who lack self-control and an abuse of God’s gift of the human body.

    Therefore, I say it’s time to ban obese people from marriage and adoption, and nullify the family relationships of people who have chosen not to live within a healthy body weight.

    Won’t somebody think of the children! And the Bible!! And God’s America!!!

  • GOD (gay old dude)

    @the crustybastard: Yes, by all means, ban Isaac C, because censorship is a progressive’s best friend. Also, if “the people” have decided that Isaac C has “no merit,” as you stated, then shouldn’t the issue of gay marriage be left up to “the people” as well and not politicians?

    I’ll be reposting your comment on numerous gay-bear and lesbian sites (you know, places where the readers aren’t all “within a healthy body weight”) to prove how hypocritical and damaging your nasty comments are. Prepare for the backlash, for your true feelings have been exposed: You’re a hater of anyone who isn’t “within a healthy body weight”—and I guess that means fat or thin. I’ll likewise alert Rosie and Oprah to this epiphany of yours.

    I have to wonder if you’re even aware that you’re so blatantly and shamelessly hypocritical.

  • The Solution

    @Picard: Your suggestion was, “Maybe we should start rioting in the streets, smashing windows and looting!”

    Right on, brother! Just tell me what neighborhood you live in and I’ll get started (and please include your specific address so we don’t miss anyplace).

    What tools some of you are!

  • Etana

    I’m sorry, but since when did fat /= part of other communities? I’m one of many queer fat femmes who (last I checked) are still part of the LGBTQ community and movement. As such, seeing my fellow LGBTQ folk (possibly not fat or fat-identified, possibly so) use part of my identity and experience to shame someone who is in fact shaming and discriminating against me too….is perpetuating the same discrimination against me from my own community that Christie is doing to us as a group of LGBTQ folk.

    You may not understand fat or even the health at every size movement, but you really should not be using it as an excuse to hate on someone else, even if they are hateful. Hate on his politics, hate on his hate for us. But don’t take my body and use it as hate – especially against someone who hates me as much as he hates you.

    If this doesn’t make sense, I apologize. I recognize that I’m talking about something (fat) that is usually only spoken of negatively, and generally relegated to slovenly and ignorant behaviors. And if you want a crash course on fat politics and identity and the health at every size movement (HAES) I’m happy to share resources.

    But if you continue to use my body and the body of countless other LGBTQ+ folk as bullets in your fight against homophobia, you’re doing it wrong. And you’re hurting us.

  • Isaac C

    @Right is Right: Thank you, Right is Right. Someone has to stand for what is decent. The comments are totally inappropriate.

  • Tackle

    C’mon people. The fat jokes and name calling is school yard kid stuff.
    Think of how our heavyset GLBT people feel reading some of these offensive comments.

    Can we talk about his politics and his beliefs, and leave his weight out of it?

    It’s really a shame, but many of you are showing your true colors. And that color is not pretty.

    @GOD(gay old dude) & @Etana: Good points made.

  • the crustybastard

    @GOD (gay old dude):

    I can’t imagine a dimwit like yourself has ever actually read Jonathan Swift, but if you had, I bet you’d just be OUTRAGED to discover “A Modest Proposal” advocated eating Irish babies as an effective solution to the economic issues of the day.

    Satire. It isn’t for everyone.


  • Nicole

    Shame on you, Evan Mulvihill! There are so many valid reasons to criticize Governor Christie, and his body size is not one of them. Lots of members in the queer community are fat-like me. It makes me sick to see my so-called allies sink to this level. All this post does is divide our community.

    Seconding all of Etana’s valid points above.

  • Heidi

    You should be ashamed of yourself, Evan.

    I’m the first to admit that Chris Christie is an atrocious politician in many regards, but his body size plays no factor in any of them.

    I, and many other members of the queer community (particularly my fellow queer, fat, femme sisters) have for far too long had to fight an increasingly uphill battle within our own community against fatphobia and body size discrimination. We are members of the queer community too. When are we going to learn that hate and division among our own community only weakens our collective voice and our movement?

    I’m also giving a major shout out to Etana, and seconding her incredibly well voiced comment.

  • Jason

    Here as a straight ally to lend support to Heidi. Engaging in hate speech against people of size to protest a hateful act against the LGBTQ community is mimicking the behavior of the oppressor. Shouldn’t the goal be to be BETTER than the homophobes?

  • the crustybastard


    This is not about YOU. It’s not about anybody except Chris Christie (and also Maggot Gallagher, as often happens).

    This is about focusing on a single identifying characteristic of theirs, and attacking THEM for that, in the same nasty way they have attacked us as a minority for having one identifying characteristic they don’t share.

    Yes. It’s shitty. It’s embarrassing. It’s degrading. It’s dehumanizing. It’s hurtful. Yes, it’s all these things.

    And it would also be wrong — if they didn’t deserve it.

    But they do, because they attacked us first.

    And Christie and Maggot deserve to be relentlessly shamed, insulted and degraded for the same reason greasy dumbfuck, toenail-chewing, daughter-banging Klansmen deserve to be called “greasy,” “dumbfuck,” “toenail-chewers,” and “daughter-bangers.” I’m sure there are lots of perfectly splendid people who are greasy.

    But that’s not the point.

  • GOD (gay old dude)

    @the crustybastard: Oh, I appreciate good satire, all right—when it’s done well.

    That still doesn’t explain why you would want to silence the voice of a dissenting opinion. Isn’t that what the First Amendment is all about? Or does that not apply to people you disagree with?

  • Erik

    Chris Christie can henceforth be known as The Notorious B.I.G.O.T.

  • stoopid louie

    @the crustybastard: I must take exception with your use of the word “attack”, Mr. Bastard. Christie didn’t attack anyone, he only denied us something, and there’s a big difference. Let’s not get too melodramatic here.

  • CBRad

    @Jason: LOL. yeah…right !

  • Susi Potter

    Fat jokes and dragging the issue into personal name calling and making cracks about Gov. Christie’s weight isn’t going to change anyone’s mind for the better, and sends the signal that it’s okay to deride and diminish someone who doesn’t look or think like you do. And, um, isn’t that what we want to AVOID???

    Better to talk about the whole new ombudsman position he’s proposed and how that whole program is more than just ” protecting” the rights of domestic partnerships, it’s also trying to perpetuate and promote a second class of marriage. That is the kind of derision we need to focus on; the subtle kind. The “this is just as good as” kind, the “why can’t you be satisfied with these crumbs” kind, the “we’ve got your back if you don’t want too much” kind.

  • CBRad

    All of you complaining about Fat Jokes were always fine with sitting back and watching gays attack anybody because of ethnicity, race, nationality, looks and everything else that, only very arguably, had anything to do with a homophobia-topic case overall. Now you complain when…….”they came for you”….?

  • the crustybastard

    @GOD (gay old dude):

    You couldn’t RECOGNIZE satire, numbnuts — so don’t bother trying to portray yourself as its connoisseur.

    Since you insist that I spell it out for you, I will try, (but with scant optimism you will grasp the concept merely because I use different words.) This particular unpopular commenter — who has been incessantly stamping his foot in thread after thread, insisting that it was eminently sensible for “everybody votes, majority rules” when it would negatively affect other unpopular people’s privileges — should himself be at least as amenable to having his own privileges put up to a vote here.

    Shakespeare called this being “hoist on his own petard.” Get it now?

    Also, for the umpteenth time — the First Amendment is only implicated where the GOVERNMENT engages in prior restraint or prosecutes people for the content of their speech. My telling you “shut up!” has fuck-all to do with the First Amendment.

    Jesus Christ, why don’t you try reading it before you try citing it? The very first goddam word is “Congress.”

  • Kate

    There are a lot of problems with this post, but the biggest is the assumption that anti-gay rhetoric and anti-fat rhetoric are aimed at mutually exclusive constituencies. They’re not. When you engage in fat-shaming you are hurling nasty, shame inducing words at members of our own queer community. Let’s learn from the hurt people like Christie cause us and not engage in arguments that serve to hurt, not to mention further marginalize, some queers, shall we?

  • Kev C

    Fat people are allowed to get married and have sex. But does anyone want to see that happen? Stop forcing fat down our throats, Gov. Christie!

  • the crustybastard

    @stoopid louie:

    Minor, citizen, spouse — each is a legal status. Legal status matters. Rights derive from a person’s legal status. Americans have Constitutional rights. Citizens have civil rights. Fundamental rights are perhaps the deepest and most profound of rights, as they derive from being human.

    The Founders defined fundamental rights in terms of the “self-evident truth” that all are equal, and the right to pursue happiness (can marriage be considered something other?) is “unalienable” — that is, cannot be taken away.

    Moreover, the Supreme Court has called marriage a fundamental right in case after case.

    So to deny me marriage is to deny my very humanity.

    Of course it is an attack on a person to deny they are even human! Dehumanization is, not coincidentally, the first step toward normalizing atrocities — which is why it should never, ever be tolerated and always be forcefully resisted.

    Recognizing a minority’s rights is not the morally dangerous slippery slope — dehumanization is.

  • CBRad

    @Kate: No.

  • Jesse

    What a disappointing article and analysis, and what a disappointing comment thread. Oh yes, let’s respond to discrimination by throwing around a lot of hateful comments about someone’s weight. After all, as centuries of social justice leaders have told us, you CAN fight hate with hate! This kind of article makes me wish I wasn’t queer, since apparently we can be just as petty and hateful as anyone else. How about this, until queerty supports dignity for fat people, I’m gonna call you all fucking faggots? Don’t worry it’s not an insult, it’s just an observation. Fucking faggots, go marry your dogs.

  • CBRad

    @Jesse: You didn’t care when Queerty readers regularly wished harm to others (including gays) just because of their ethnic backgrounds or national origin, or even because of the state they lived in. Now you’re mad about fat jokes? I guess that’s gay priorities for ya.

  • stoopid louie

    @the crustybastard: Wah wah wah, yeah OK, I get it, I get it. You’re a professional victim, I’ve met plenty of you before. Here it is for you, then, the American Heritage dictionary’s definition of “attack”:
    To set upon with violent force (Christie didn’t force himself on anyone)
    To bombard with hostile criticism (Christie never criticized us)
    To assault (sorry folks, move along, nothing to see here)
    Your insistance that his policy decision be classified as an “attack” is frighteningly militant. I may be stoopid, but I’m smart enough to know that Christie isn’t Hitler, and that he’s not looking to dehumanize us. You remind me of the Democrats from 1980 who swore Ronald Reagan would start WWIII if elected (hee hee, I still giggle at that one). No, Chris Christie isn’t out to “normalize atrocities” against anyone, and to suggest otherwise is downright paranoid. Which you have every right to be, because this is America, dammit.

  • the crustybastard

    @stoopid louie: “Wah wah wah, yeah OK, I get it, I get it.”

    No. No you don’t.

    Critical thinking isn’t for everyone.

  • Halla

    Really? You’re really going to advocate that people make mean and horrible jokes about another person because he disagrees with you? What age are you anyway? In my bit of the world this sort of name-calling was frowned on at nursery school age, never mind from an adult who is trying to fight a worthy fight. Close your floodgates, your bigotry is showing.

  • Amy

    I am FLABBERGASTED that anyone who views himself or herself as a member of an oppressed community can ever think that it’s OK to heap oppression on another oppressed community. When you make fun of Chris Christie’s weight, you make fun of MY weight, and your fat friends’ weight, and the weight of every fat person you might come across in a day. YYou are not funny, you are not right, and you are alienating a huge portion of your own group. Fat jokes are not funny, they are hate. If you’re not OK with Gov. Christie being fat, then are you not OK with anyone else being fat. Your prejudice is showing and it’s ugly.

  • Phil

    Sorry kids, but two wrongs won’t make a right.

    You can’t connect the dots and think that fat jokes are going to change the fact that he vetoed the bill.

    Put less effort into his fat, and more into ensuring that the law changes without him. Your victory in doing this will cause him embarrassment as a politician, proving that he’s out of touch with the people in his own state.

  • Kev C

    Gluttony is a sin. Same as Sodomy. One of the sins of Sodom, the biblical city, was “fullness of bread” (Ezekiel 16:49). God destroyed Sodom for it’s fatty foods. Governor Christie is a sodomite, folks.

  • Bethany

    I’m happy to share in the put downs of Gov Christie’s POLITICS, but comments on his body and supposed food preferences are ridiculous and unwarranted. What does his body size or my body size or your body size have to do with this conversation? It just makes you look like the angry schoolyard bully, looking for a quick, and cheap dig. Really poor choice author Evan/ Queerty.

  • WJoaquin

    Comments by clowns like Right is Right and Isaac C remind me of just how genetically inferior gay RepubliKlans are to the rest of the human race.

  • Nerd-faced Girl

    Shame on him for vetoing this bill, and shame on you for encouraging people to make jokes about his size. His size is completely beside the point and has nothing to do with anything. You don’t fight stigma by encouraging different stigma.

  • Right is Right

    @WJoaquin: “RepubliKlans”? Silly liberal, puns are for funny people to tell.

  • geekintheglasses

    Shame on you! I’m a member of the LGBTQ community and I get enough shit for being both fat and bisexual. I don’t support Christie in the LEAST but that doesn’t mean I would ever fat shame him. Why? Because I’m better than that. I would expect others in my community to be so as well. And when you make a fat joke about 1 person, even someone that is a giant bigot, you make it okay for others to make fat jokes about every other fat person. You feed into the culture where it’s okay to fat-shame. Seriously, I am so ashamed and angry you would suggest fat shaming as retaliation.

  • CBRad

    Somebody must have made a post on this Queerty article somewhere where all the fat folk could see it and come here and complain. Note how NOW they take offense when ghetto gays attack THEM (when, I bet you anything, they joined right in when the attacks targeted others).

  • Etana

    This doesn’t make sense. You are assuming that (again) those responding here are only one type of person. The LGBTQ community is full of all of humanity – and I (like everyone else here) represent so much more than queerness or fatness. Stop assuming all people on the Internet are or aren’t like you.

  • Okama

    @Isaac C: Obviously you’re not gay, and you’re probably not fat either. I’m not exactly sure what you are. Well, listen up my dear: Assuming you’re not entirely familiar with Queerty, you ought to know that it is a news source designed by, of, and for us queers. We really don’t want your ridiculous criticism, considering you don’t seem to have any reference for what you’re saying. When the government tells you that you can’t marry the person you love because of some convoluted interpretation of God’s teachings, let’s see if you’re satisfied with a sub-rate replacement. Let’s see if you’re so high-minded then, as to deny the usage of the separate-but-equal argument when it’s your own ass, or you child’s ass, or your sibling’s ass, that’s on the line.

  • CBRad

    @Etana: Yeah, but, I actually agree with you that homosexuals and lesbians are a whole varied swathe of people. Also that making fun of someone’s weight is unkind (to other overweight people) and doesn’t really effectively criticize a politician’s political flaws, but I also feel like……welcome to the club, overweight people. Have you never read Queerty or other gay ghetto blogs before? People are regularly ripped to shreds just because of who they are, not what they do or don’t do.

  • Drew

    @52 Glen-Stop being such a racist, bigot, and hypocrite and making fun of someone’s heritage. Why not just call Christie a Dago, Guido, or Wop while you’re at it you racist pig.

  • KW

    I am a fat woman who has fought extensively for the recognition of the right for all people to marry the one they love. Fighting stigma and bigotry with name calling and stigmatizing another group that is regularly abused seems absolutely backwards. Please reconsider your call to engage in this kind of hateful rhetoric.

  • WJoaquin

    @Right is Right: Silly RepubliKlan, thinking is for intelligent people to do.

  • BullseyeB

    I’m straight. I’m fat. I support gay marriage and the LGBT community. I think Gov. Christies sucks and needs to be brought down several notches. I do not support going after him by way of making fat jokes. What will this accomplish? It will offend the fat members of this and all communities. I fight fat discrimination every time I walk outside of my house. I have a rare fat disorder called Adiposis Dolorosa. Being fat is NOT my choice, it is just who I am. Sound familiar? It is NOT ok to degrade someone for being gay. It is equally NOT ok degrading someone for being fat.

    Let’s find a more powerful, effective way to oust Christie from his throne.

  • WillBFair

    I’m sorry. The tag line was hysterical. Let’s remember. This is a gay blog, and gay humor can be pretty rough. We make fun of ourselves just as cruelly. Get over it, or go elsewhere.

  • Steve

    @the crustybastard wrote: “Study after study shows that obese people …”

    Thank you, crustybastard. That was very funny.

    Of course, denying rights to obese people would be just as wrong as denying rights to gay people. But it is always fun to play insert-name-of-minority-here, and the turnabout really is fair.

  • mr obnoxious

    jeez, did this thread make a left turn to all sorts of silliness…
    –first, civil union is *nothing* like marriage. anyone who ways so has not read their state’s definition of ‘civil union’. no federal protections apply, no recognition by other states, and, depending on your state, no inheritance protection, no custody transfer, not even hospital visiting rights in some states. read your state’s rules. that is, for those that can read.
    –second, the founding fathers made ‘freedom of speech’ the first amendment because it’s the most important. so i defend to the death the right of total, complete morons like rightisright and isaac c to their own stupid opinions. but they are still wrong.
    –third, attacking christie because he’s *fat*?! with all the stupid, craxy stuff he’s done, this is what you waste your breath on? i’m on the lunatic dennis miller’s side on this (substituting ‘size’ for ‘color of their skin’), “hating someone based on the color of their skin is stupid when, once you take the time to get to know them, there are so many better reasons to hate them.”

  • Kitt

    What a stinking pile of fatphobic amateur comedians. Few people commenting here have the character and social sophistication to confine their maturity to the issue at hand i.e. gay rights. I shall always be, quite literally, a bigger and better person than a fat bigot. The disclaimer at the bottom of these comments states that comments should avoid personal attacks on bloggers and fellow commenters. Yet the article’s author has no problem ‘opening the floodgates’ for abuse and vilification of something as trivial as body size which affects millions of other people and trickles down as an endorsement of bullying fat kids. I saw what you did.

  • Danny

    Considering that two-thirds of all military personnel, police personnel, and scientists on the planet have or will have gay family members, it seems assinine for governments to violate the human rights of gay people, right?

  • Navi

    @Isaac C: shut up. he deserves it, you don’t think he says bad things and insults homosexuals, and he’s the governor for god’s sake.

  • mylife

    Few things here: 1) Why are any of you shocked with the veto? He pretty much assured everyone he would not sign this bill. 2) Is he black? Based on comments from the site, I thought ALL white people supported gay rights. 3) It’s simply his “preference” to not support gay marriage. That “preference” doesn’t make him a bigot. Get with the times, people.

  • Terry

    There is so much to hate about this guy that actually matters, and you go for the fat jokes? Come on. Seventh-grade cheap shots show that you can’t be bothered to write a real article. You are better than this.
    A Gay Fatty

  • Okama

    @Right is Right: Well, if you’d like that, then you can go take yourself, Isaac C, and Dan Savage and go be breeders. There’s absolutely no reason why we should have to assimilate to be accepted, when no other group is expected to do so by mainstream society. Oh wait, I forgot: You right-wing nuts *are* mainstream in this country now.

  • Shannon1981

    @Right is Right: I might not be as thin as you would prefer, but I am certainly nowhere near Christie’s weight. Surprised the man can get through a door. Besides, with my new love of juicing, I am down to 160. :)

    Christie could do the same if he’d put the fork down and hop on a treadmill. Not that hard.

  • Shannon1981

    @Etana: You know, I used to be part of the “Healthy at Any Size” movement. I respect your decision to continue. I found that it was a farce and not right for me, though. Obesity is not good for anyone for any reason. It causes heart problems, diabetes, joint issues, the list goes on. To me, the promotion that exercise and healthy eating to lose weight is unnecessary is pretty harmful to me, sorry. I went on a juicing diet 2 months ago and lost 42 lbs and I feel better than I have in years. Try it, you won’t be sorry.

  • CBRad

    @Shannon1981: Shannon : A little bit of overweight is okay. Some people just have slow metabolisms. And a lot of people have weight that fluctuates. But I think when you’re Christie’s size (unless there is an actual medical condition) it shows gluttony and/or some kind of destructive psych problem. (My opinion only).

  • WJoaquin

    @Shannon1981: My parents are overweight. What’s with all the fatphobia? I take it very personally and I really don’t care for bigots like you. Back under your rock, troll!

  • Shannon1981

    @WJoaquin: I’m not a troll.I am still 30 lbs overweight myself.

    @CBRad: there is a difference between being my size and Christie’s size, and with what Christie is doing, he deserves whatever scorn comes his way. And there is no way someone weighs that much without being a lazy glutton.

    Furthermore, as I said, I respect people’s right to be part of that Health At Any Size movement…but I think the promotion of the idea that being way overweight is a GOOD thing is misguided. Its a health thing for me. I loved myself when I weighed 200, and I love myself now. All I did was state facts.

  • WJoaquin

    @Shannon1981: So? Ricky Gervais is fat and he says the most awful things about fat people.

  • Shannon1981

    @WJoaquin: And I am not Ricky Gervais.

    1) I am only pointing out that anyone Chrisie’s size is gluttonous. End of story. Nobody has to get that huge. And this is coming from someone with a lifetime of yo yo dieting due to dance/entertainment related requirements.

    2) I lost the weight, several times, so I know it can be done, and this time I made lifestyle changes to ensure it stays off.

    3)It is anyone’s decision whether to embrace or lose it, but to promote the idea that it is healthy is to lie to the masses as well as perpetuate diseases like diabetes, cancer, heart disease,etc. There is nothing good about that.



  • Shannon1981

    @TASTEY GOODIES: Use a Juiceman juicer and have nothing but fruit and vegetable juice and water. You’ll be really hungry at first, and if you need to, have a salad for dinner, no dressing, no meat, nothing but raw veggies at first. Then, just the juice and water. No sodas, tea(not even diet), or anything like that. Try to stick to vegetable juice because it has more nutrients but fruit juice is ok occasionally, but not all the time. I recommend carrot and cabbage and celery mix.

  • Alex

    If Gov. Christie likes to play with his own tits, then does that make him a bisexual?

  • Kath

    Do you seriously think that there are no fat gay people who are sick of being shamed like this? Yes, Christie is a douchecanoe, but don’t hate on fat people to illustrate a point.

    Tear down Christie’s bigotry, his politics, his behaviour, but leave his body size out of this.

  • Hephaestion

    Citizen’s arrest! I arrest Gov. Christie for not upholding the NJ Constitution.
    I sentence him to having to live in Trenton for the rest of his life!! (And not in the gov’s mansion)

  • dsp

    Every time I travel the New York City, I stay in a New Jersey hotel and take the PATH to NYC. Until this douchebag is out of office, I will no longer be spending my money in the State of New Jersey. For those who say that will punish the ones who are against Christie, well it is you New Jersites who elected him and how am I to know if some scumbag retailer voted for him or not, so yes I will put you all in the same lot and am boycotting the Sate of New Jersey until such said douchebag is gone and NJ comes into the 21st century. Done it to California after Prop 8 and don’t feel bad about doing to NJ.

  • WJoaquin

    @Shannon1981: Go read reports by the Southern Poverty Law Center to see that, in fact, many people (particularly, poor people) are overweight because they may go for most of the day without eating and when they do eat, they find calorie-dense food (i.e. McDonald’s) to keep them full for longer. But I wouldn’t expect a bigot like you to do research, it’s much easier to just blindly hate and accuse all fat people of being gluttons. Would you say the same to alcoholics and smokers? They can hide their lungs and livers, but fat people can’t hide their fat. It’s easy to bully fat people like you and so many other people do because it’s so visible. You are a coward, pure and simple.

  • Tackle

    @Shannon1981: You are wrong!
    You say that anyone Gov.Christie’s is “due to them being gluttonous”.
    And then you say that, “nobody has to get that huge”.

    Shannon the story that you and others here may not know, is like Oprah Winfrey,
    Gov. Christie has a thyroid problem whic affects his metabolism.
    I have seen people with this condition who are NOT over eaters, but because their thyroid is so out of whack,their bodies just cannot metabalize food properly. Resuliting in them being over weight.

    We need to be very careful applying our experience, and lives to others.
    And thoes of you who thinks it’s cool and funny to talk and make jokes about someone with a medical condition, be cafeful. Because Karma is a bitch.

  • Shannon1981

    @WJoaquin: I’m not a coward. I battled a weight problem myself and chose to do something about it, that’s all. If they choose not to, that’s them. I am not bullying fat people, its not business or my problem whether they choose to exercise or not.

    @Tackle: If he has a medical condition, different story.

  • Shannon1981

    @WJoaquin: Furthermore, I smoke. I know its a disgusting habit I never should have picked up and I still do it because I choose to, rather than choosing to have the willpower and suffer the discomfort of nicotine withdrawals. But you don’t see me going around pushing the idea that smoking is ok and healthy like these HAAS folks do. I don’t because it’s not and I know it’s not. Therein lies the difference.

  • MickW

    To all the fat people complaining, now you know how black gay people feel when we read the comments directed to all black people because of what one black person did.

  • Fawkes

    @Shannon1981: Go away, troll.

  • WJoaquin

    @Fawkes: I don’t think it’ll listen to you. You’ll only make it angry.



  • Al

    I hope this fat fucking pig dies while eating a MacDonald’s Burger!

  • rockhard10

    Christie is a fat ,odious disgrace.EVERYONE,who weighs in at 4 and change,has to be unhappy with their personal appearance.Chris Christie is no exception,and he has to have the inherit psychological baggage, that looking like he does, naturally accompanies.His self loathing becomes apparent in his attacks on other people.Yet Christie still doesn’t try and do anything about it,and that alone makes him too weak kneed to be anything,other than a loud mouthed,morbidly obese, slovenly New Jersey political hack.

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