Dear Dr. Carson,
If being gay is a choice, prove it. Choose it. Choose to be gay yourself. Show America how that’s done, Ben, show us how a man can choose to be gay. Suck my dick. Name the time and the place and I’ll bring my dick and a camera crew and you can suck me off and win the argument.
Very sincerely yours,
— Syndicated sex columnist and ornery gay Dan Savage challenging noted presidential hopeful and actual doctor, Ben Carson, to submit the receipts following his comments that prison (presumably among other things) makes one gay.
Kieran
Dear Dan,
You can be gay without sucking dick just as you can be hetero without eating vagina. Stop equating sexual orientation with sex acts. It’s not helpful. Carson has his own foot stuck in his own mouth right now anyway. Don’t distract from his predicament.
Yours sincerely etc.
jwtraveler
I like Dan Savage, but this is pretty stupid.
Ladbrook
In-your-face perfection.
lcandela123
Dan, I’d like to take you up on your challenge. Is it an open invitation?
jjose712
@Kieran: You are missing the point, it was Ben Carson the one who equated both things, and Dan is simply proving how stupid was his point of view
tdx3fan
Seriously! Why is this post already filled with appologist crap? Yes, you can be gay without sucking dick, but that would be pretty fucking boring. Find me a straight boy that does not eat pussy and I will show you his sexually frustrated female partner. Gay is not all about sex, but in a healthy lifestyle sex plays a huge part. Stop blaming fellow gays for homophobia. Homophobes do not need a reason… they hate us just because we exist.
robho3
Dan is just too much for me- I am not a fan.
Giancarlo85
@tdx3fan: Whatever happened to criticizing someone without bringing up sexual references.
I apologize deeply if my posts don’t contain constant sexual references. That would just win me a lot of friends wouldn’t it?
lauraspencer
Not a fan of Dan Savage so I don’t care what he has to say.
@tdx3fan…you do realize there are straight men who don’t perform oral sex on women? Some simply don’t like it. I’ve had a few straight male friends over the years who have told me they don’t go down on women. It’s just not their thing to do.
Scribe38
@Kieran: @lauraspencer: What gay man doesn’t suck dick (please keep them away from me)? Straight guys who refuse to pleasure their women should be cheated on. I’m gay and have gone down on women. Step up your game folks.
I fu*king love Dan. There are those who bend over to the bigots and beg for their acceptance (Log cabin) and those who fight back (real LGBTQ people). Dan uses the weapon gay men have used for centuries, wit, cunning, and a tongue coated in acid. I wish him a long healthy life, because he takes down bigots on a public scale quicker and more efficient than any one else.
Scribe38
@Giancarlo85: GOP supporters say horrible things about gay men. They scream that we will burn in hell, that we will all catch AIDS, that we actively attempt to make kids gay, but telling a bigot to suck some dick is out of line? They constantly reduce us to a sexual act, and I have no issue throwing it back.
Giancarlo85
@Scribe38: No I wouldn’t tell them to suck a dick. I would dispute their faulty claims I’m a rational way. I am sometimes tempted to call them fascist goosestepping dick sucking assholes, but I will keep it civil. I’m not going to stoop their level.
Giancarlo85
*I would also call them hypocrites. Seems more mature.
TransParency_
This is cis-normative, cis-sexist, trans-exclusionary bigoted garbage. Both Savage and the posters supporting him. You don’t need to have a penis to be a man, and more importantly, you don’t have to be attracted to men with penises to BE a GAY man. Gay men like vaginas, and those who claim they don’t are either close-minded or simply transphobic a$#holes. Genital essentialism by privileged Cis-homos erases transfolks. You don’t get to simply reject vaginas as sexually unappealing at the expense of our identities. Your “preference” doesn’t trump my IDENTITY.
Giancarlo85
@TransParency_: Blah blah blah. I am tired of this cismale crap. Transmen are not biological gay men. They are transmen. Stop trying to call them gay men. They are not. Gay men, for the most part, are not interested in transmen. And I am one who is a defender of LGBT rights, and that includes trans rights.
You are a bad troll. And for the record I don’t like Dan Savage one bit.
Giancarlo85
And gay men do not like vaginas.
You, transparency, are a detrimental to the trans community and doing a great disservice. As a nonconforming gay man who is androgynous, I tell you the shut up and stop doing damage.
Blackceo
Ugh…I have less respect for Dan Savage than I do Ben Carson so whatever douchebag.
DarkZephyr
I get Dan Savage’s point. As was pointed out, he was using Ben Carson’s own logic against him, nothing more. It was definitely Carson who reduced homosexuality to sex acts involving penises. Transparency should be ranting against Carson and not against Savage. But like most Parker Molloy wannabes, TransParency focuses on things that aren’t REALLY attacks on Trans people. Look TransParency, while I agree with you that you can be a gay man without a penis and you a cis gay man dating a Transman is still a gay man, most cis gay men actually are NOT into vagina. That is just a statistical fact. And all gay Transman that I personally know also like dick. How DARE you try to shame is for that? Your hateful prejudices do not trump OUR identity.
DarkZephyr
@DarkZephyr: Transman*. Us*
DarkZephyr
@Blackceo: why in god’s name would you have more respect for Ben Carson?
Giancarlo85
@DarkZephyr: You are right. I should revise my last post and say MOST gay men do not like transmen (or vaginas for that matter).
I just get irritated at that “cis” label”. It’s annoying, redundant and unnecessary.
Chris
I thought that Savage’s point was rather straightforward ….. until I read these posts and their references to normatives, trans, cis, queer, and on and on. But then I realized, NONE of that was Savage’s point. His point was simpler: “if being gay is a choice, go ahead and make that choice. Become gay and…..”
aliengod
Dan Savage is an idiot! Stupid article about a stupid comment from a stupid person.
MarionPaige
just further proof of how Republicans and The Professional Gays are this Roadshow touring America. I see Anti-Gay Republicans and Self Appointed Gay Activists singing “Let’s Call The Whole Thing Off”, “while Rome burns”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3fjQa5Hls
Blackceo
@DarkZephyr:
Can’t stand the man’s politics but greatly respect his neurosurgical work at Johns Hopkins. There isn’t much of anything I respect in Dan Savage.
Kieran
His point was straightforwardly stupid. To equate being gay with being a c*ck sucker is as dumb and offensive as equating being heterosexual with eating out a women’s vagina. It would be like Dan saying, “Dr. Carson, prove you’re a heterosexual, eat my sister’s p*ssy in public.”
Giancarlo85
@Kieran: Well this is Dan Savage you’re talking about… he’s a professional provocateur who likes to engage in infantile attacks. His entire career is built on immaturity. I could go on, but I won’t… just not worth it. Asides from that some of his views are very libertarian, and I think libertarians are in some other reality.
Giancarlo85
BTW one issue I’ve had with Dan Savage that goes back years… well… he’s a damn war monger…
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=12237
I still remember this P.O.S article he wrote supporting a completely illegal war. He’s a libertarian with neo-conservative streaks. Some say he backtracked on that support, but I say he was covering his own ass after all the lies emerged. His reasoning was borderline insane in his support of the war of Iraq. And the opposite of everything he said happened… by supporting the war in Iraq, a sectarian ended up installed (being Nouri Al-Maliki)… and the whole situation exploded.
I’m sorry but I won’t ever forget his weak chickenhawk support for a completely illegal war.
Dan Savage can kiss my ass.
Giancarlo85
*Note: Both Dan Savage and Ben Carson can kiss it (NOT literally of course), and both are repulsive to me. I can’t stand either of them.
rand503
The funny thing is that Savages actually makes such a goid retort no one that I have said it too has anything to say. I have confronted many homophobes who claim being gay is a choice, and I say that they should able to have sex wiitu a man and enjoy it as much as any other gay man. They are so startled, it really does shut them up.
tdx3fan
@Giancarlo85: While arent you special? Your “illegal” war was declared through completely legal means by Congress, and hindsight is 20 20, but at the time it was the right decision.
inbama
@TransParency_:
Thanks for the laugh.
That post is the best satire on transfeminist politics I’ve read.
Shannon1981
@TransParency_: Trolling much? So, not being attracted to penises and refusing to sleep with the owner of a penis somehow makes me a transphobe? Just wow.
You don’t get to dictate who other people sleep with by hanging the bigot label over them. Just way over the top.
Atomicrob
We need more Dan Savages… We need brave leaders to stand up to opportunistic homophobes like Carson. Carson is pandering to a base of voters who he believes hates gays… He makes his point so they know where he stands, then half heartedly retracts it so he remains a somewhat viable candidate. Dan Savage is savvy enough to use shock and awe to expose the Ben Carsons of our culture. I’m thankful for his example.
DarkZephyr
@Giancarlo85: I am glad you were able to decipher what I said through my iPhone induced incoherency. lol
@Blackceo: I thank you for answering my question and I deeply respect your opinion. Please permit me to share mine with you.
I respect Carson’s medical work as well. And I am with you, I do not respect his politics at all. But I have to say that I think what he does wrong goes beyond politics. When he states his views on LGBT people, these are statements made by a very well respected neurosurgeon and author. A clearly intelligent man with a high IQ and yet he says the most reprehensible things about LGBT people. Things that are bound to influence others in a negative way and things that are bound to hurt LGBT people, including LGBT youth.
As for Dan Savage, there are things that he says that I do not agree with and viewpoints that he holds that I find completely off the wall. BUT I greatly respect the work he has done with the “It Gets Better” Project and the other work he has put into LGBT rights. But especially the It Gets Better campaign. It has probably saved many LGBT youth lives that might have otherwise ended in suicide. For me personally, that is something to be greatly respected. And I think the point that he made here was a very good one. It was crass, it was disrespectful and it was vulgar. But in MY opinion, no more so than the statements made by Dr. Carson about the genesis of homosexuality.
Giancarlo85
@tdx3fan: Blah blah blah. Just because Congress agreed doesn’t mean it was right nor legal. Use your brain. Congress also approved the Gulf of Tonkin resolution… And that was a lie too.
The war was not legal in the eyes of the international community. So you seem to be the special one here with issues. But you will go to any length to defend this lunatic.
How the hell was it the correct decision? Who are you fooling? Just another brainless neocon.
Giancarlo85
We don’t need more Dan Savages. We need more activists who aren’t willing to pander to certain right wing views. And I don’t get the recent right wingers in here… Like tdxfan. Are you just that delusional?
Sure Dan Savage might be right on this issue… But a broken clock is right twice a day too… I believe that is the saying. So, it doesn’t mean we should fully endorse him.
Giancarlo85
@DarkZephyr: I just can’t defend two lunatics. Sure, Dan Savage has done some right things and Ben Carson is a respected doctor, but the two have some insanely WRONG views. And I am not about to pick the lesser of the two wrongs (not going to say evils here). But if I was forced to, obviously Savage is a bit more correct than Carson.
Anyways, the sad part is both of them are educated. They should know better.
jason smeds
Dan Savage is massively deluded. Ben Carson was simply saying that straight-identifying men tend to stick to women in a gender-balanced society but may turn to men in a gender-unbalanced society. This is a well-known fact. Is Dan Savage trying to deny this well-known fact.
The most gender-unbalanced society is that seen in prisons, and homosexuality between men is more common there than it is in general society.
jason smeds
I wonder if Dan Savage is one of these men who denies the existence of a fluid sexuality in straight-identifying men. The denial stems from the fear that gynephilic gay men have of offending women, a fear that is based on the notion that all husbands and boyfriends of women are capable of being seduced by another man, thus offending the woman and turning her against homosexual rights.
Cam
@Giancarlo85:
Anybody notice that when there is a post about somebody being anti-gay or anti-lesbian, that the Transgender posters use it as an excuse to come in and attack the LGB folks on here?
Apparently right wing bigots aren’t the enemy to them.
as for Savage, The folks sitting there hyperventilating that maybe he said something offensive can go f*ck yourselves. As if the bigots aren’t offensive?
Giancarlo85
@jason smeds: You’re wrong on too many levels. For one, Ben Carson never said that. And second, what happens in prison is about rape and power, not about sexuality. You need to learn a bit about what happens in prison before you comment.
Your presumptions are based on the fact that you think that sexuality is a choice.
I don’t care for Dan Savage, but this is one of the worst posts I’ve seen in a while:
“The denial stems from the fear that gynephilic gay men have of offending women, a fear that is based on the notion that all husbands and boyfriends of women are capable of being seduced by another man, thus offending the woman and turning her against homosexual rights.”
What is your evidence of this? Or are you just spouting out of thin air? MOST (if not a huge majority) of gay men are not actively seeking out straight men or trying to seduce them. Sure, some may have some fantasies about a certain straight celebrity or something, but this couldn’t be further from the truth. Gay men are interested in other gay men (I would also say bi men).
Giancarlo85
@Cam: As far as Savage, he’s a broken clock that’s right twice a day. He is right here, but I probably wouldn’t have worded it the way he did.
Carson is a clock missing both handles right now. I must add Carson did sort of apologize for the remarks… and Carson is not the type who goes back on his words. I’m not sure how much I put in his apology though, but again he’s not one that ever does that. He’s always on a war against so called “political correctness”.
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/03/05/3630120/ben-carson-prison-homosexuality-apology-but-not-really/
Thinkprogress is right though… it’s not really a full and complete apology and retraction of the utterly false statements he made about prison rape. Again, what happens in prison is not about sexuality, rather about rape and power.
As far as transparency, I don’t even know if the troll is real or really transgender.
Saint Law
@jason smeds: “Sexually fluid men” lol – yeah, right, and the fluid is sperm.
Anyways you’re the last person to be opining on the subject of ‘balance’, gender or otherwise, you depraved bollock.
lcandela123
@TransParency_: Ooh! Did you swallow a dictionary, or something?
inbama
Living in Alabama, I am constantly exposed to the conservative trick of pointing to the Achilles heel of every activist (example: MLK was an adulterer) in order to justify the status quo and prevent progress from happening.
This is what some posters are doing here to Dan Savage’s clever,vulgar and deserved take down of Ben Carson, an absolute enemy of all LGBTs.
People like Giancarlo are either anti-gay trolls committing sabotage or fools. Waiting for the perfect activist is as futile as waiting for the Second Coming of Christ.
lcandela123
@jason smeds: Carson needs to correct his vocabulary when talking about gay topics. Just because guys turn to guys in a gender unbalanced setting does not mean they are gay. They are closing their eyes and fantasizing about women while they fuck guys, just like when married closeted gays fantasize about men while fucking their wives. So, “gay” is NOT what you do, it is what you are.
Or, does some miracle of brain chemistry occur among incarcerated males, changing their sexuality, and then reverse itself once they are out of jail?
inbama
@lcandela123:
Carson doesn’t give a hoot.
Almost all Republicans are using this tactic: they put out absolute crap that goes viral and pleases the base. Then they issue some tepid “sort of” apology – which of course isn’t covered by FOX fake news so the base never hears it. Then they go before another group of GOP loonies and repeat the crap again.
It gives the Log Cabin queens, the Libertarian rubes and women who elect Republican misogynists “cover”
Giancarlo85
@inbama: You are a total fool. I do not side with either Savage or Carson. I can DISAGREE with both. I do think Savage was right in the overall message but I wouldn’t have stated it that way. What I do have a big problem is with the other views Savage holds.
Who said Savage is an activist or spokesperson for the LGBT community? He speaks for himself. Sometimes he’s right, and often he’s wrong. I applaud him for his efforts in the “It Gets Better” campaign and criticizing Carson, but there are so many things wrong with him.
Now maybe you should use that brain of yours. And you better watch what you call me. I am not anti-gay or a fool. I care about the gay community more than you.
Giancarlo85
@inbama: Jeez… do you read what you write? Dan Savage is a LIBERTARIAN. Do you even know what Savage stands for when it comes to other issues?
I can’t stand Carson one bit. But lets be real…
And there are better activists out there than Savage.
Horse Lips
There is absolutely nothing I don’t love about his statement. I look forward to the video.
sfhally
@jason smeds: Except that Dr. Carson didn’t say all that. He said–go into prison straight, come out gay. And if you’d read ALL of what Dan actually said, you’d see that he made those points you try to expand Carson’s to include. Check out it out at The Stranger website.
sfhally
@jason smeds: Nope–he’s already discussed this one. Nice try, though.
sfhally
@Cam: I think part of this distaste for Dan’s “vulgarity” is a class thing. (And a prissy thing, but that’s something else). He comes from a blue collar/working class background and I totally get his viewpoint. I love Dan’s responses–it’s just what people in my background would say. Fuck with me and mine and you’ll regret it.
People have been complaining about his “inappropiateness” from the get-go. Why should he change now? He always said that he came at his column like you’re talking to friends–you razz them and then solve the problem. Maybe it’s a Midwest thing.
sfhally
@Giancarlo85: “Dan Savage is a LIBERTARIAN. Do you even know what Savage stands for when it comes to other issues? ”
Do you? You foam at the mouth about all the horrible things Dan believes but no back-up. And I don’t think he refers to himself as a LIBERTARIAN!!
Giancarlo85
@sfhally: I did back myself up. I just haven’t paid attention to anything this hollow man has said over the past decade. George Carlin (RIP) was extremely vulgar but at least he had a point.
inbama
@Giancarlo85:
George Carlin was a brilliant comedian, but unfortunately, his stock in trade was cynicism which encourages the always pure left to do what they do best – stay home on election day.
He is a perfect hero for you.
Giancarlo85
Again, I’ll just have to close this and say I agree to disagree. I’ll agree with DAn has said here about Carson. Carson is an extremist who knows nothing about sexuality. And we’ll leave it at that.
Giancarlo85
@inbama: Except I don’t stay home on election day, douchebag.
George Carlin had reasons for that cynicism. This system is corrupt and broken… I’ll take the democrats, but they are far from perfect.
Giancarlo85
@inbama: And what is the pure left? In America? What pure left? There is NO pure left in America. The republicans are right wing extremists, and the democrats are right of center. And in general elections, the democrats do tend to vote in much greater numbers.
But I don’t get it when people some ignoramus refers to the “pure left” in America… I don’t recall any.
Blackceo
@DarkZephyr:
Yes, I agree on the “It Gets Better” campaign being a good thing.
Essus67
I have been reading the responses to what Dan Savage has said by you lot and I am not impressed with the sheer idiocy that is being displayed.
Ben Carson (Bless his heart – and I mean that in the most southern of ways) is an intellectually bankrupt, mendacious ass of a human being. This is opinion and should not be confused with fact.
The issue here, and I appreciate the attempts to derail the issue folks, is that Ben Carson, the twit that he is, has stated that being gay is a choice.
Now I’d like to know how many of you woke up one day and said “Self, I think I will engage in relationships, sexual and emotional, with members of my species that identify as the same gender as me.”
All Dan Savage did was ask for the proof of the statement that Ben Carson trotted out.
It may not be in language you appreciate, it may not be in a manner you approve of and it may not be from a source that you have any regard for, but the twaddle that devolves into ad hominem attacks on posters and the introduction of false equivalencies or outright unrelated comparisons that cloud this issue.
Which is:
-Ben Carson has stated “Because a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight and when they come out they’re gay.” This is a direct quote.
-Dan Savage asked for empirical evidence of this choice.
I for one laud Dan Savage for his intemperate language. How dare someone try to dismiss people simply because some inane mythological nincompoopery. This type of comment by people like Ben Carson has to be vigorously defended against by means that draw attention. Should we as individuals and as a community adopt a passive voice, we get crap like ex-gay camps and religiously based anti-gay laws.
dave lopes
We need to stop answering to these people’s Choice / Not choice argument.
So what if it were a coice.
It would still be my choice and others not affected should have no right to prevent me from enjoying my life with equal protection of the law.
They feel it is a choice? fine. They made the choice to go one way, some make the choice to go the opposite way and some make the choice to go both ways.
End of story.
Giancarlo85
@Essus67: I strongly disagree with Ben Carson and made my disgust known when the comments he made came to light. I know what that man has said in the past. He should know better then making complete lies.
I will also defend someones right to freedom of speech and to criticize when those lies come to light. Dan Savage was correct in his criticism, even if I were to have worded it differently.
But the problem with your argument is I do not have to agree with everything Dan Savage agrees in, nor should I be torn down for criticizing Dan Savage. As I said, I can’t stand Ben Carson one bit and I really hope he realizes how wrong he is one day. Probably won’t ever happen because he doesn’t seem like the type that would.
In addition, I am NOT suggesting we be passive. At the same time, however, we didn’t gain all the support we did in polls and so forth through vicious foul language. Dispute me all you want.
DarkZephyr
@Giancarlo85: My respect for Savage has definitely waned over the years, especially when I discovered what he preaches concerning monogamy. I originally thought he could do no wrong and was proud that he was a fellow Washingtonian but that has certainly changed over the years.
@jason smeds: “Ben Carson was simply saying that straight-identifying men tend to stick to women in a gender-balanced society but may turn to men in a gender-unbalanced society.”
Not even close! He said that men go to prison straight and come out gay!
@Blackceo: Thank you. You are among the more intelligent and level headed posters around here 🙂
jason smeds
Dan Savage is one of these queens who appears to be afraid of offending women. You often see queens like this in public. They don’t want to offend women in case it turns them off the gay rights cause.
You see, the fastest way to turn women off the gay rights cause is to suggest to them that their husbands or boyfriends might also be interested sexually in men. It scares them. Women can’t compete with it.
Giancarlo85
@jason smeds: I am not fond of Dan Savage, but are you spouting off that crap about not offending women? Sexuality isn’t some light switch.
And your second paragraph so how much of a misogynist you really are. Spout of your right wing paranoia somewhere else where people will actually believe it. You really don’t know anything about sexuality.
vive
@Giancarlo85, what are these “insanely wrong” views of Dan Savage’s you keep referring to?
Sluggo2007
I want Ben Carson to show me how he decided to be black rather than white.
jason smeds
Ben Carson was using the “come out gay” expression in the colloquial sense. He was simply saying that straight-identifying men in prison environments will turn to men due to the absence of women. If you’re going to get offended about that, no wonder the general public thinks of us as being easily offended.
jason smeds
Giancarlo,
I’m a very wise person. What makes me wise is that I am not beholden to gay identity politics. I can see that the gay scene is doing a lot of harm to gay men. And I can also see that gay men are very easily led astray by the propaganda of the gay community.
Giancarlo85
@jason smeds: No you aren’t. You are clueless on sexuality and gender relations. You are the one spouting off propaganda and you have no clue about anything really. What happens in prison is about rape and power, not sexuality. Since you are pretty foolish and not wise at all, you don’t seem to grasp that concept. Your words do harm to gay men, but luckily most won’t listen to your holier than thou nonsense. And second, stop acting as if you are some kind of messiah. Stop with the delusions of grandeur… You aren’t “saving” anyone.
Jason don’t be stupid and stop acting as if you know everything, when it is clear you don’t. You are a right wing conservagay who will defend bigots because they are right wing too. You are a danger to yourself.
Giancarlo85
@jason smeds: You will go to any length to defend that nutcase. First off, what happens in prison isn’tabout the absence of women. It’s called prison rape. It’s about power and control over others. It’s not even about sexuality. It seems to me you can’t grasp this concept. You’re not an expert. Experts, however, have done multiple studies and come to the same conclusion I have posted. Now get off your pedestal and come back to reality.
Like most right wing conservagays you’re nothing more then a sell-out with no integrity, commonly referred to as a cowardly backstabber.
Charlie in Charge
I’m 100% with Dan. Think being gay is a choice out your money (or more appropriately, Dan’s dick) where your mouth is.
vive
@Giancarlo85, rape happens in prison, but lots of prison sex isn’t rape. Many mostly-straight-identified (but probably really bisexual) men will have consensual sex with men in prison, even though that may not be their stated first preference.
That doesn’t mean gay men can or should choose to be straight, though. Everything is not black and white. Let’s admit some nuance.
onthemark
@jason smeds: You would probably do well in prison. (Maybe you’ve already been there?) You’re already living your life to conform with the prison scene as opposed to the “gay scene.”
@Giancarlo85: Congratulations on your appointment to the Supreme Court! I’m amazed that Obama even nominated such a lefty as you, and then got you through this rightwing nutbag Congress, but I’m sure you’ll do great. It’s such a step up from your courier job, and safer too since you will no longer be texting while driving.
onthemark
@vive: Thanks for a sensible comment, which btw is well-documented if any doubters want to look into the subject.
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: You are a complete imbecile. I won’t give you a response beyond that. You have a lot of growing up to do. One day you will learn.
Giancarlo85
@vive: I think the instances of rape are far more common, but you do have a valid point. Consensual gay sex in prison happens because the men are either gay or bi, not straight.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: I’d ask you to be more specific, but since you’re already agitated I don’t want to inspire a road rage incident on the 405!
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: Seek help for your anger management issues please. I am a calm driver and I don’t text when I drive.
Giancarlo85
One of my friends was hospitalized for three weeks after being in a car accident because the person who hit him was texting. Worse than drunk driving. So go fuck yourself please.
inbama
Rampant prison rape is a myth. There is more consensual sex, but studies show even that appears to be rare.
http://www.justdetention.org/en/academicarticles/Saum.aspx
tusgold
Dan is a very astute guy and if you find yourself in disaagreement MOST of the the time it’s YOU not getting something.
He is a saint in my eyes because of the “It Gets Better” foundation. The man and his husband save lives everyday. Young gay men especially, but thats just a numbers issue, he saves women and transgender people as well. He may be crude and at times even to crass ffor me, but overaall he makes earth a better planet. There issn’t many people you can say that about.
vive
@tusgold, I know the “It Gets Better” campaign is well-intentioned, but I am not sure it is necessarily a good approach. The “It Gets Better” campaign gives people the impression that they have helped when they have really changed nothing concrete. Young people in trouble need things to be made better now, not some nice words and promises of pies in the sky – and the truth is it doesn’t really get better for many people who, once they go out into the gay community, tend to find high school pretty much reenacted there as well.
inbama
@vive: Well, maybe you want to start a “It Gets Worse” campaign as your contribution to gay kids.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: uh… you miss the point. I was merely making fun of you for being such a know-it-all and for writing so damn much.
I realize your usual response to any such suggestion is a vicious (and unintentionally ironic) retort from you that the other person writes as much, and must have anger issues (!) and is a “moron” etc. Not in this case since I didn’t post on Queerty (or even look at it) for several days; you might try that some time. If you really don’t text and drive, well I’m glad to hear it, although the obvious inference is that you must be texting during your non-driving work time.
And I actually LIKE your political opinions, I really do!
onthemark
@vive: For once I disagree with you (and that’s uncommon). My teen years pre-dated the It Gets Better stuff but I had to improvise a homemade version of it, and it kept me going. The best and most practical thing was that suicide, formerly an imminent looming presence, became more of an abstract fuzzy distant future problem that I didn’t need to think about every day. Then in adulthood it just disappeared.
Teens do read this site so we should be careful not to discourage them about the (supposed) “gay community” which after all is in reality non-existent at this point. Any “high school reenactment” situations – and there are a few – can be avoided.
@inbama: And that’s funny, thanks.
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: You’re the one that is being a know-it-all. And you really need to get some help. I hope one day you can work out your issues. Maybe at that point you actually can hold a conversation without resorting to histrionics.
You’re the one with the anger issues. And it’s evident in your posts. Have a nice day. I don’t text during work time either.
Giancarlo85
BTW, if you had any reading comprehension, you would know I work a part time job. I am trying to get something better. But it’s absolutely hilarious you assume you know everything about me and what I do. You’re a fucking asshole. Don’t bother responding to me anymore. I won’t be coming back to read any further comments under this page.
I don’t write that much on here. Every now and then, under some articles… and only a few comments at most.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: Thank you for a typically angry & delusional post that proves all my points.
You have over 20 comments on this thread alone. And as usual, you said several posts ago that you weren’t going to respond to me anymore, AND YET YOU ALWAYS DO!
You’re fun to mess with.
Clark35
@jason smeds: Um what? Dan offends women all the time saying that their genitals look like “canned ham dropped from the empire state building”, and he even advocated in his silly “advice” column that a woman who had been r@ped and had PTSD STFU and let her husband basically r@pe her. Dan is also highly biphobic, and transphobic. The whole “It gets better” campaign is stupid since it completely ignores LGBT/at risk youth, and their issues.
Clark35
@tusgold: No they don’t they formed the silly campaign not to help LGBT youth but to get fame/media attention, and as a non-profit tax shelter.
Gary R
@TransParency_: “Gay men like vaginas”. Really? I must have been doing teh gayness all wrong then.
Also, I know a few guys who don’t like giving or receiving oral; they must be straight then. I also know some gay guys who hate anal, but also know women who enjoy it. So what’s THAT all about?
These comments are stupid. If sex acts are all you think about in terms of sexuality, then you must be pretty damn shallow.