Oprah made it clear in her announcement for a 2020 Presidential run Golden Globes speech last evening that “the time is up” for toxic masculinity. People are through letting loud douchey guys get away with being loud douchey guys simply because they are loud douchey guys.
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And speaking of loud douchey guys, a video of a group of passengers (mostly female) confronting a truly toxic male aboard a Delta flight has been making the rounds online. The video first began circulating last summer but it got a second wind recently. In it, some angry white dude is unable access his overhead compartment so, naturally, he takes his aggression out on the closest woman, proving that there is still much work to be done when it comes to combating toxic masculinity.
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Just to warn you, the video contains quite a few F-bombs and “m-er f-ers” and, oh yeah, no shortage of misogynistic slurs, so you might want to keep the volume down if your boss is around.
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am_psi
Yeah that old lady was sure displaying toxic masculinity when she shoved the guy.
Donston
So, they took down the Tom Daley article, why?
Lazycrockett
Lawyers.
Donston
And to Creamsicle: I looked up Lance Hart. I don’t really see a resemblance to Tom besides noth being white, having a somewhat similar build and dark hair. I have seen a couple of clips. He apparently is only into women and trans women and only does guys for money. Though it’s virtually impossible to tell what most sex workers orientations are and what motivates them outside of the cash.
Paco
Well he is certainly the missing link. He forgot to pound his chest to prove how threatening he is. He and other males like that should be in a zoo with the other beasts.
Donston
As far as this topic goes: this dude is a crazy douche, but are we really getting to the point of blaming everything bad a man does on “toxic masculinity”? That sorta removes people from individual responsibility and blames on their behaviors on culture. And are we gonna act like effeminate men or even just seemingly harmless and soft-spoken men don’t throw tantrums, have anger problems and never abuse or harass people?
Creamsicle
Yeah the shit he was spewing is the same shit that I’ve heard in and around public libraries. He definitely didn’t do himself any favors by yelling even louder about it, but this seems more like a case of a run-of-the-mill asshole than something necessarily related to being a man.
KaiserVonScheiss
“Toxic masculinity.”
I find if funny, a site that basically worships the masculine physique hates masculinity.
I’m sorry, but your man-hating is disgusting and sexist. Imagine if someone said “toxic femininity.” The feminists/SJWs would be screeching bloody murder.
draven
That man was a creepy loser nothing masculine about him. He was horrible not attracted at all. He looked oily. Yuck
Clay83
If you are not bright enough to know the difference between masculinity and toxic masculinity then maybe you should be reading from the kiddies section, that may be more your pace
DCguy
Notice how the same anti-lgbt Trump Trolls try to avoid the ACTUAL topic of what the guy was doing so they can then pretend to be the victims.
Nice Try
Juanjo
I see Kaiser von shithead has his usual offtopic comment. Of course, he probably got a hard-on waching the vid.
Ummmm Yeah
So are butch lesbians toxic masculines? Why no articles about that?
DCguy
Oh look, another of Mo Bros screenames, trying to avoid the topic of what this guy was doing.
Ummmm Yeah
If you listen to the audio you clearly hear a woman taking his side. Why no mention of her toxic femininity.
draven
She was horrible too and oily looking. I assume they live in Florida. The poor flight attendant I felt sorry for him.
queer_as_in_f_u
says the person who literally has no idea what toxic masculinity is/means
Ummmm Yeah
I’m pretty sure it’s pumping male hormones into a woman’s body until their organs start to break down.
Kieran
Nothing says “masculinity” like a braided pony tail on a guy.
BitterOldQueen
Totally awful behavior, but is it necessary to blame his gender and race? Seems to me there’s all sorts of trouble when individuals are identified by their race, and in his case I don’t think it’s so much a matter of being white or male as being an utter douche.
draven
That’s was just a horrible unhappy person who will not have a good 2018. Karma’s a b. I don’t do b’s
Kieran
Excellent point. I missed the implicit and almost casual racism displayed in this article. Troubling.
Donston
But seriously, Queerty, it’s time to stop pushing this “toxic masculinity” crap. There may be some truth to it. But it reduces people to archetypes, removes personal responsibility, can seem to incriminate any masculine man and doesn’t acknowledge that there are many sociological and psychological issues that aren’t inherently connected to masculinity. Also, what is happening in Hollywood has little to do with “toxic masculinity”. Even Oprah didn’t say anything about “toxic masculinity”. That’s just a narrative you’re trying to build. And hell, what about predators like Andy Dick and Bryan Singer? Their issues are not connected to anyone masculinity. Put this hashtag to rest.
queer_as_in_f_u
only hit dogs will holler! Maybe stop trying to defend men who feel like shoving and threatening elderly women is acceptable.
Donston
Where in that post am I defending anyone? I’m not even talking about the man in this post. I’m talking about the hype behind “toxic masculinity”. Most horrible things men do are not due to masculinity. Violent instincts, tantrums, abuse, assault, harassment, manipulation- these things are not inherently connected to masculinity, though it can be apart of the problem in some cases. Reducing all bad behavior from men to “toxic masculinity” is incredibly simplistic. And frankly, based on your few comments in thread you come off as rather… simple. Also, yes, just like misogyny is a thing so is misandry, and a lot of gay and gay-leaning men contend with it for whatever reasons, almost as many as those that contend with internalized homophobia. This hype around “toxic masculinity” and reducing every terrible thing that a man does as some reflection of it seems borderline misandrous. More than that, it’s just basic and counterproductive. It is a problem in our culture. But honing in on it and only it strips away nuance from very complex issues.
Furthermore, why can’t this just be an a-hole going nuts on an airplane? This is hardly even connected to the idea of “toxic masculinity”.
draven
They should have had the cops and a cage waiting for that loser. He was very mean. Always travel very early and pay extra to avoid the mean people if you can. I’m gay and my mom ….rip….always told me to avoid mean ppl at all cost. I would never waste my time arguing with someone. That man was a crazy. I’m also 6’3”.25 200 lbs black. Very fit. Very good looking but not vain. Not violent. But I’m a gay alpha passive male. I take no wooden nickels.
Brian
Not vain, but you felt the need to throw in “very good looking” for absolutely no reason.
miserylovedme24
Generally the people that refer to themselves as ‘very good looking’ aren’t.
Aires the Ram
Here’s what “toxic masculinity” really means: Those who don’t like male behavior, because of their dislike of non-feminine behavior, call it “toxic”. These women who insist on being single mothers of boys, drug them with ritalin so they act more like girls, call their normal male aggression ‘toxic’, and otherwise are on a mission to emasculate all men, beginning when they’re children. Looks like a Marxist success story to me, just emasculate all the males, then they’ll never fight for anything. How brilliant, good way to take this country down the path to destruction. Funny thing is, if these females are in trouble, who do they call? A male who is (by their definition), “toxic”. A cop.
Donston
Well, there are many gay and gay-leaning men who are hyping the phrase as well. However, most of those types seem to be gay men who contend with misandry and were probably molested or raped by a man at some point and are possibly better off being with a woman until they get their issues with men in check. These types of guys don’t even include the majority of effeminate men who grew up being bullied.
Yes, there is some truth to “toxic masculinity”. It’s just that reducing everything bad a man does to “toxic masculinity” is incredibly simplistic. It completely evaporates psychological and societal nuance. Most of the bad things a man does is not driven by his masculinity. This is just another easy thing to blame complex problems on.
queer_as_in_f_u
if your idea of being a masculine man is shoving, threatening and cussing at old ladies, you are a toxic piece of shit
Kangol
I don’t think you have a clue what “Marxist” means. You should read up about it more, beginning with Das Kapital.
DCguy
Oh look, a THIRD troll screename trying to avoid talking about the ACTUAL BEHAVIOR of the man.
deppa
This guy is nasty. The only tiny thing I agree with him on is when people (allegedly) seated behind you rush up in front of you to take their luggage or just to rush ahead in line to exit. Drives me insane although I wouldn’t react to it like this idiot did.
queer_as_in_f_u
If you’re in here mocking the idea of toxic masculinity, ask yourself: do you believe it is acceptable for men to hit women? Do you think it’s acceptable for men to hit the the elderly? Do you think it’s acceptible for anyone to hit anyone because they are inconvenienced in an airplane at an airport (shocking! I know!). Do you think threatening women and calling them whores makes you look like anything other than an ass? If yes, you are toxic. There are a lot of ways to be masculine that don’t involve picking fights and making threats Also, consider this person was any race but white. They probably would have been arrested upon exiting the plane and called a variety of slurs online. Only white people get away with stuff like this consequence-free. There is no mention of any consequences for this man, so you better believe he will continue to respond violently to anyone who bumps into him or inconveniences him in anyway.
tl;dr
if you’re in here to say its racist to point out he is white and being an angry, violent, disgusting man, you’re disgusting and making other white men who know how to behave in public look bad. Stop it
Sincerely,
a white man who’s tired of white men acting poorly and complaining when they’re called out for it
PinkoOfTheGange
So this asshole’s asholliness is based on being a white male?
If you say so.
SiamSam
Your comments here are the embodiment of black-and-white thinkin. Criticizing the gendering of toxic HUMAN behavior as specifically a male problem like this article does not condone or support male violence or aggression in any way, shape or form. Quit the magic mushrooms because you are literally hallucinating things no one is saying here.
Tête Carrée
OK, just replace “toxic masculinity” with azzhole. Better?
Danny595
Masculinity isn’t toxic, effeminacy is.
DCguy
The FIFTH (Missed this one earlier) Mo Bro Screename trying to avoid the fact that the man was abusive and violent on the plane.
Knight
So, now Queerty is going to start posting all videos of bad behavior of any kind under the umbrella of “toxic masculinity”? Hmmm…so, at the same time this story Queerty reported happened last year, another similar story (one of many) where a WOMAN behaved belligerently to a MAN…so do we now call this “toxic femininity”? Is that a thing? https://youtu.be/HHMqK3DVrkc
DCguy
My My My…a FOURTH screename of the Trump Trolls on here trying to turn the discussion OFF of the topic of the guys actual behavior.
Lets ask ourselves, why do all of these screenames DESPERATELY want to avoid talking about the guys ACTUAL behavior? The same reason they attempt to deflect ANY article where lgbts have been harassed or subjected to bigotry.
Knight
DCTroll this is my only screen name, you disgusting, lying piece of human filth. YOU on the other hand have several, aka “Cam”. I would love to see you gored by a bull…can you arrange that for us there, phucktard?
broadshoulder
I think posters on here have a problem with the phrase “toxic mascu;inity”. Would you use it to describe women with” toxic feminlinity”. No you wouldn’t! Stop pushing it Qweerty?
Jack Meoff
Why was this story written about on this site. There is no gay angle in this story to warrant to being included here. It seems like Mr Cremorne was just looking for a reason to use the term ‘toxic masculinity’ several times to get people worked up over a non-gay related issue.
Brody
Why do liberals hate men so much? Especially when we created/invented/built/established ev-er-y-thing that makes our lives as awesome as they are?
Anyone who’s ever met more than a couple other human beings in their life will easily attest to the fact that the term “toxic” applies much more frequently to women than it does to men.
DCguy
The SIXTH screename of Mo Bro on here to attempt to deflect the topic away from the man’s actual behavior.
You are making it VERY obvious that your agenda is to ALWAYS attempt to avoid any discussion that could point out the bad behavior of anybody towards lgbts, women, minorities ect…
The fact that you have unleashed SIX of your screenames so obviously ….well my my my this must be VERY important to you.
Donston
DC, dude, you need to chill out a bit. Yes, there are trolls and people using multiple usernames. But really, the topic isn’t something we can talk about in depth. We don’t know these people. They’re not famous. The details are scant. And it’s not connected to lgbtq in any way. All we can say is the guy did something douche-y. However, connecting every man’s bad behavior to “toxic masculinity” is problematic, and therefore, that’s what most of the comment section ends up being about. The article itself is irresponsible, shallow and designed to provoke.
Brian
Has DC guy ever actually contributed anything to a discussion in here, other than accusing people whose POV he disagrees with of being sockpuppets of a single person? It’s downright Pavolivan at this point, and every bit as pathetic as what he’s accusing the posters of doing. 5 posts in this thread, and all 5 are about trolls rather than the article.
Knight
Brian thank you. DCTroll is no better than a bucket of human filth. I think he realizes no one likes him or wants him here at this point, so the only thing he can do is accuse others of being sockpuppets, when the reality is he has multiple ones himself (i.e. he is “Cam” among others). It’s as pitiful as it is hypocritical.
paul dorian lord fredine
i’d comment more specifically but no video comes up. all i can say is, based on what’s in the text, i figure he just felt he could get away with his actions because there were mostly women in his vicinity. just another bullying asshole and i’m willing to bet he was fueled by more than a few drinks.
bobnla
hey…STOP this gender baiting. Your overboard bias is misplaced and inappropriate, and maybe a reflection of the Queerty pro-women even racist agenda. You call this fella who has gone ballistic ‘an angry white dude’…why did you need to say he was white? Sounds a little bit racist to me! OK OK, so he is having a hysterical breakdown, but to call this eruption ‘toxic masculinity’ is a sexist remark
girldownunder
Vid gone? Or my system dumb?
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