Remember when family values supporter Gov. Mark Sanford expressed his distaste for giving gays rights? Aww, those were the good old days — before he took a big shit on what he calls family values.
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Jaroslaw
To say this is hypocrisy doesn’t begin to scratch the surface of what these kinds of stories say about the religious right, our society’s view of sexual relations, status of women, homophobia, loaded words like “family” etc.
Almost everyone who posts here is already aware of that so I won’t make a long diatribe about it.
What I would like to see is a huge chart of all the similar lying/hypocritical ministers, leaders, politicians and others – in a huge timeline display. Anyone game to do one?
Joanaroo
All together now!: “Onward Christian Philanderers…gotta get a whore…”. The more these self-righteous, hypocritical GOP bastards do this the better I like it! I hope that more of them get caught with their peccadilloes in their hands and the GOP implodes! Serves them right!
Jake the libertarian
I know most of you don’t like Scarborough but I don’t hate the guy. He has been arguing against the Republican positions on gays for a while now. He’s not perfect, but he is a calm voice in a sea of bigots. He’s also for fiscal responsibility… which is rare.
Robert, NYC
@Jaroslaw:
Have you noticed just how SILENT the religious cults have been since this and Ensign’s stories erupted? I wouldn’t mind betting that many in these cults are in the same boat as Sanford and Ensign and on both sides of the political aisle. Had Sanford or Ensign been caught with a male, the vitriole and hate speech would have been deafening. Proof positive that this is about hypocrisy, bigotry and the double standard of which the GOP seems to have the monopoly of late. I hope more of this keeps coming, it can serve only to weaken their so called “moral” argument against our full equality. They can’t use the procreation mantra any more and now they’re in a very difficult situation to start chanting the one man one woman, sanctity of marriage mantra. What a bunch of psychopathic losers!
AlwaysGay
Mark Sanford and Joe Scarborough should resign. Both are anti-gay bigots, incredibly dumb and selfish.
Robert, NYC
Joe Scarborough doesn’t really object to same sex marriage but doesn’t want it in his own state of Florida. How weird is that?
dlpca
Is Sanford one of us?
Is it my imagination or is Governor Mark Sanford of SC gay? My Gaydar just took a huge spike during this clip. And during yesterday’s press conference it spiked then as well. Then Rachel Maddow showed an excerpt from the sexy emails and the language seemed awfully, no overwhelmingly, gay to me.
Could this perhaps be the core story, the real scandal here? Is it that Gov. Sanford actually has a male lover on the down low in South America. Look at him, he does not look like a player, nor does he sound like one. I think perhaps his “Mo” tendencies got the better of him, you know post stress from the stimulus package trial, et al.
Of course, I could be wrong. What does your Gaydar say?
dlpca
…especially when he first referred to the other lover as “this person”…then later using “this woman”. Disappearance acts like his are a very Gay thing to do, take a trip or escape to nowhere.
See, my Gaydar is still dinging!
Jenny Sanford
And he was cheating on his wife at the time he said this. I call heterosexual bullshit all over him.
Jaroslaw
Robert, NYC – well, I responded to the AFA about the Campbell’s soup ad and have been getting bombarded by e-mails from them ever since. They are not silent about anything!
However, “silent” as in not much broadcast/print at the national level? How does one ever know what is chosen to be hyped and what is ignored? I recall the hoopla about Black churches being burned and in actuality the same number had been burned every year. Which is not to say this is not a huge issue but rather I’m focusing on how the mainstream media perceives and relays it to the public.
DuttyBarb
Robert, NYC,
Wow this whole anti-gay rights is really an agenda for you huh??
Robert, NYC
@DuttyBarb:
Run along, make yourself a large cup of STFU and choke on it, you idiot!
MackMike
@Robert, NYC: You know, I’ve been a practicing homosexual for 18 years now, but you have just done so much to convince me that I need to change. Oh, DuttyBarb, I want you to be the woman with whom I enter into a loveless sham marriage with, with whom I can share a life without intimacy, and with whom I can grow ever more resentful of till death to us part. How I would look forward to a future of growing in disgust for you–if it would be possible to eclipse that which I have for you now. Please tell me that you’re single! What am I say? It is nearly impossible to imagine that someone would have already staked claim to you. Oh, please let me be the one to fill the rest of your life with all the lack of love and all the disrespect that you so deserve, please DuttyBarb, allow me to be the ex-gay man to share that family value with you!
You’ve won me over, you little minx, you!
MackMike
Robert, as much as I would more desire you, my proposal is for DuttyBarb, the woman who haunts my dry dreams.
Robert, NYC
@MackMike:
You flatter me, but thanks!
DuttyBarb
@Mackmike,
Wow really? Where to begin…
You are giving a very tired and ridiculous reason as to why two men/women should marry. I mean sure no one expects you to decieve some poor woman into a loveless, deceitful marriage, i mean you wouldnt need to if you were truly back to normal now would you? But gay marriage is a joke…a dull, sad and empty one. You don’t deserve it…you don’t. Its not yours to take or have access to..i mean how else can we be clearer? The govt is grudgingly giving you rights because Obama is trying to be fair but i can assure you that by the next president…poof!!!!
There is a cure for this thing but you peeps dont seem to realise it. Just like the state tries to cure pedophiles and sex offenders im sure we can find some treatments for you people. But no, you want to present yourself as normal and decieve innocent kids that sure same sex attraction is ok. This is the reason why gays should not be allowed near children. We should just take away future rights for gays to be parents.
Robert, NYC
Pay no attention to right wingers like that moron Duttybarb. The US Department of Justice Bureau of Justice statistics on pedophilia indicates that 3 out of 4 victims are FEMALE. So in essence, straights per capita commit pedophilia at a far higher rate than gay perpetrators. So all children should be kept away from straights rather than the reverse. Check out the section on “Characteristics of Child Victims”. Gays should keep away from fucking retards like Duttybarb too.
http://www.yellodyno.com/pdf/LifeTips_Child_Molester_Stats.pdf
Jaroslaw
As always, the question is why is someone like Duttbarb here to begin with? Bored at home?
DuttyBarb
Robert
Now u are just in denial. Really? You know that gay men perpetuate a lot of pedophilia..i mean C’MON. Because its not reported does not mean that it is not going on.
I feel saddened that u deny that the horrible crimes against children with this stupid gay agenda.
God will forgive you all
dlpca
“We should just take away future rights for gays to be parents.” -No. 16 · DuttyBarb…
From DLPCA:
Well once rights of one group (CA Prop 8) start being rescinded others will follow. Traditional marriage believers are delusional that this is a “right”. Marriage is a business contract, a legally binding commitment. Now, if all sexual orientations were allowed to freely marry would the current traditional institution of marriage be in jeopardy? I think not. We are all on the same journey, just different places along the path toward finding Love.
The wrongs of discrimination run so deep in the US that it has become part of traditional thinking to “separate”, target and criminalize those who are different (race, gender, sexual orientation). Furthermore, it becomes widely accepted and key source for hate, crime and other inhumane injustices. If Love were valued, marriage would not be the issue, adultery, hate and discrimination would be the real battles to fight.
Fighting over people loving each other is self destructive and quite revealing, showing that one may have never known what a wonderful joy true Love is and how it transcends everything; every obstacle. This is why Gays have to keep fighting. Freedom to Love is the prize to be won!
InExile
@DuttyBarb: Sorry honey, it is a well proven fact that most child molesters are straight, take all of your priests for instance. Yes, those who are the most vocal against gays are usually the ones with something to hide. So, you must be hiding something you are not very proud of also. Are you really just Larry Craig posting as DuttyBarb? Maybe you should head to the closest airport for some action? Oh, that’s right if you get caught (and only if) you might have to admit what you are really about!
MackMike
@DuttyBarb: DuttyDear, are we having our first spat?! Don’t be like this. You’re my cure! I’m telling you that I want to marry you…I want you to take me out of this lifestyle…I can change for you, Sweetheart, all you have to do is take the risk with me. Think of DuttyDear, you’ll have someone to share all that bitterness in your heart, someone who will take up a bit of the excess time that you obviously have, since you’re visiting Queerty just a bit too often, if you know what I mean. Once together, I’ll take away your computer and get you busy with serving your man. You believe I can change, dontcha, DuttyDear? Then why not? Put up or shut up, my lovely lil NuttyDutty. You sound just like my kind of woman, frigid and entirely disinterest in sex…well, disinterested in sex as it pertains to your own life; we all know of your obsession with everyone else’s sex life.
By the way, what is your plan for taking away the rights of gays to be parents. Will you sterilize all gays? Will you force lesbians to have hysterectomies? Casterate gay men? How about adulterers….will you casterate adulterers too?
Dutty, the world in your head is fascinating, probably filled with images of witch burnings and cave people.
MackMike
@dlpca: DLPCA, folks like NuttyBarb have no true regard for children. They wish for them to rot in orphanages (like my mother did, by the way), losing their childhood altogether; they bemoan their receiving food through food stamps and food programs; they would deny them possible life saving medical advancements through stem cell research. People like NuttyBarb don’t adopt children in need, and they wish to deny child in need homes and parents who would love them because their bigotted and hateful world view is bigger and more important than the life of any child. People like NuttyBarb LOVE THE FETUS, BUT HATE THE CHILD. That should be their campaign slogan for 2012.
Robert, NYC
@Jaroslaw:
They’re usually paid shills for the right wing organizations and religious cults and some are so called wannabe “ex-gays”, delusionists. They’re sad, lonely people who can’t get laid or get it up adequately. They also obsess about our sex lives, hence their presence here. They should clean up their own house first, go after the straights who truly threaten marriage such as Sanford, Vitter, Gingrich, Fossella, Giuliani while espousing the sanctity of marriage. For them, marriage involves at least three people. Fucking psychotic liars and frauds. Notice how Dummybarb doesn’t denigrate them because they’re straight.
Robert, NYC
@DuttyBarb:
Dummybarb, the problem with you right wing shills is that none of you are honest enough to take ownership of the double standard, hypocrisy and bigotry inherent in your party of hate. So its no wonder you can’t face the truth about the higher ratio of pedophilia committed by the breeders as well as the higher ratio of incest among them, both documented by the U.S. Department of Justice statistics.
Gay people don’t throw away their children, let alone abandon them on doorsteps or breed indiscriminately for the sake of it. I’d pity any child born to you, in fact I’d insist on an abortion to save it from abuse, or better yet mandate sterilization in your case. No child is safe around people like you.
Jaroslaw
ROBERT NYC – thanks, very good response to me & Dummybarb – I’ll go one further- in many states that allow same sex foster care, Gay parents take the kids no one else wants! Presumably because (a) they really want to parent and (b) we know what it is like not to fit in, etc.
Yes, absolutely, let’s hear from Dummybarb about making adultery illegal (well actually it is, just not enforced) not allowing divorce, if they’re so gung-ho about “saving” the traditional family. And of course, anyone who’s posted here a while knows I work for welfare – there are 100’s of thousands of UNWED births annually – what about them? Many NEVER get married at all.
Robert, NYC
@Jaroslaw:
You’re welcome. How about if the Dummybarbs of this world pushed for an amendment to ban straights who don’t want to procreate or can’t from marrying to even the procreation field argument once and for all? Its at the heart of religious wackos’ objection to same-sex marriage. Maybe these religious breeders should also demand a referendum to prohibit straights from divorcing where one is abusing the other or their children (incest, usually daughters) if any because children MUST have two parents. Straight widows and widowers with children would also have to be forced to marry of course for the sake of the “traditional” family. Many of these kids end up in predominantly straight foster care and even some of those straight foster parents have abused the kids they’re caring for. Dummybarb would ignore that of course because of the “straight” component. They’d rather have kids raised in abusive straight homes than in a loving home with two parents of the same gender who often provide them with a better start in life and a whole lot more. Surprising isn’t it that the children of same-sex couples almost always grow up to be well adjusted heterosexuals later in life. Another fact that can be documented.
As for the unwed parent breeders, well, you know of course that Dummybarb would blame same-sex marriage for that, just as they blame us for Hurrican Katrina, 9/11, climate change, the soaring divorce rate 50% of which is a result of straight adultery, or fathering children with other women outside the marriage. THAT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO REPUBLICAN!
RichardR
Could somebody please find out which rock nuttybarb lives under so we can bombard her site with facts and rationality? Not that we can change her mind, since clearly she doesn’t have one, but just to oh, discourage her hateful nonsense?
DuttyBarb
Hello all,
I agree with Robert on the fact that laws should be created to disallow psychologically imbalanced people from having children to avoid abuse of whatever form.
In short all sexual deviants should not be allowed to father or even come in contact with kids. Is the only way to keep the innocent safe.
I have a woman of the “alternative marriage” that works at my company. She and her partner have two beautiful boys. One of the boys was pushed down a flight of stairs by his schoolmates and was further physically assaulted because he has two mommies. Of course,this caused an outrage in the community and broke the heart of his mommies. The boy refuses to go back to school. How heartbreaking
This is a live event people of the problems this gay marriage will cause. Just because laws are made to cater to your legal and financial woes does not mean that everyday people accept the idea of the corruption of marriage. And of course the more spiteful ones will teach their kids its ok to attack an innocent child becos his family is alternative.
This is the main issue of corrupting something..there will be consequences that are way more far reaching than whether the law protects ur so called rights. I mean the boy refuses to go back to school…are you really happy that a child has to suffer all tht? Do you enjoy the fact that stigma will keep him from a lot of things he should have? The humiliation that most churches will not marry you but will marry your straight brother/sister. That some schools will not admit your child because of its parents’ lifestyles. That you have to cry and bleed before the law will give you benefits others enjoy. I mean how many more lawsuits do you want before it hits you. YOU ARE A LIVING SINFUL LIFE. Even atheists have a problem with the idea of gay marriage.
Once again, think about it and Get Jesus
Robert, NYC
@DuttyBarb:
Dummybarb, we DON’T NEED FUCKING CHURCHES to marry us. Religious marriage and civil marriage are two totally different things, idiot! NO RELIGIOUS CULT IS COMPELLED TO MARRY ANY GAY COUPLE SO STFU. FUCK YOU and FUCK YOUR RELIGION.
Robert, NYC
@DuttyBarb:
Ours are NOT lifestyles. When did you choose to be ugly and sexually inadequate, you dumb ignorant bitch? You’re still in denial about the adulterous retards you support where there brains are clearly located in their genitalia and in other women than their wives.
MackMike
@DuttyBarb: How very typical and simple minded an argument you present DummyBarb. The issue isn’t the hate and ostracism that you, yes YOU, perpetuate that might lead a group of school children to push one of their classmates down a flight of stairs; rather, the issue must be that the child has two mothers who love him. Hate is understandable in your world, and love simply is not.
Golly, to extend the “logic” of your argument that laws should be created to prevent the abuse of children in any form, people with large noses or a predisposition to be obese should be sterilized, for they too will bring children into the world who are bullied. Don’t inform children not to hate, instead adopt a point a view furthered by the Nazi’s of creating a homogenous and perfect people, and persecute artists, intellectuals and (yes, DummyBarb) those who are handicapped in any way.
Who else should we sterilize? Gosh, we could sterilize folks with IQs that don’t meet the standards we set forth, or we could sterilize people of faith, who might raise children who are bullied for their religious belief systems. Perhaps, one day, we will see all the ills–all the atrocity–that comes with fundamentalism and extreemism, and we will sterilize people of faith, so that they cannot pass along to another generation their dangerous notions and prejudices.
DummyBarb, I’ve been in churches all my life, and I dare say that I know my scripture far better than you, and I must admit that you are just about as far away from Jesus and his teachings as one can get. The anger, the hate that you foster here in this life, will meet you in the next, and in your case evolution is strictly out.
I just feel so terribly sad for you and the life you must lead. I, like other gay men here, come to catch up on political news items and exchange ideas about all sorts of issues that pertain to our community. My husband endorses this time I spend, becausee he too is interested in the issues that affect our community. You, on the other hand, must be terribly desperate to spend so much of your free time on a site that speaks directly to gays, and that your motivation is to do nothing but hurt and demean others. How lonely your existence must be, and how utterly lacking in love your life surely is. I’m not saying that you haven’t earned this truly sad quality of life that you lead, but I still wouldn’t wish it on another soul.
You are to be pittied, you really are; it’s too bad that the folks on here are to battle worn to have the energy to muster it for you.
Latin Male
LOL! Thats a real man right there…shutup fags, always vrying against church and religion but always crying because you want fag marriage, stupid angry hate-mongers always at was with society.