The news keep getting worse for Ron “Don’t Say Gay” DeSantis’ sinking presidential campaign. With lagging poll numbers nationally and in his home state, the gay-hating governor might be on the precipice of losing the Republican party’s biggest kingmakers: the Murdoch family.
Rupert Murdoch and his family own Fox News, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Post, among other right-leaning outlets.
The New York Times published a story Wednesday that examines Fox News’ increasingly tough coverage of DeSantis, who used to be a network favorite. In two recent Fox interviews, he was grilled about his declining support, and the growing gap between him and Donald Trump.
Maria Bartiromo, an ardent Trump backer, asked DeSantis “what’s going on” with his campaign. After forcing out a laugh, the flailing candidate blamed his woes on the media.
“Maria, these are narratives,” he said. “The media does not want me to be the nominee.”
In another interview, Will Cain, who voted against Trump in the 2016 election and remains skeptical of the disgraced ex-president, pressed DeSantis on why he was so far behind in polls.
“There are those that say there’s something about you that’s not connecting, for whatever reason, not connecting with the voter,” said Cain.
Looking shellshocked, DeSantis pushed back with some word salad about his fundraising numbers.
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While DeSantis has been well behind Trump in GOP primary polls for months, a new poll among registered Republican voters in Florida found him 20 points behind the Menace of Mar-a-Lago.
That indicates DeSantis’ support among Sunshine State Republicans is cratering, considering he won reelection by nearly 20 points last November.
With those numbers in mind, it’s apparent that anti-Trump Republicans may need to find a new horse. The NYT reports that Rupert Murdoch is privately telling people he wants Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin to enter the race. Though Youngkin remains coy about his presidential ambitions, he’s acting like a Republican with national ambitions. His administration recently removed from LGBTQ+ resources from a state website, continuing his broadsides against the gay community.
You know what they say: if a Republican presidential candidate loses the Murdochs, he’s lost the primary.
“They are transactional and can smell a loser a mile away,” a Murdoch source told Rolling Stone. (For what it’s worth, the NYT piece also covers Trump’s fractured relationship with Fox News, though MAGA heads don’t seem to care.)
He absolutely sucks.
— Joey (@Joey_Columbo) July 12, 2023
Well I thought that would’ve taken longer
— Adam Gaertner 🇺🇸 (@veryvirology) July 12, 2023
— Chris OIIey (@chrisoIIey) July 12, 2023
Wow, who knew picking someone less likeable than Ted Cruz would backfire?
— lspear (@lspear412) July 12, 2023
Zero charisma, awkward personality, has chosen to go further to the right than Trump on some issues, really hard to pivot after that. The whole “woke” thing has fizzled, less important. Trump people that he might appeal to are cultists and want the real thing.
— Amy Yang (@amysyang1) July 12, 2023
Meatball Rob got on the campaign trail to show voters how much of an awkward weirdo he actually is.
— Dave N. (@Autolykos_84) July 12, 2023
The sole reason is that after Murdoch spent millions on this loser, DeSantis’ polling has collapsed. DeSantis is the biggest bust in U.S. political history
— Jejune_the_Conqueror (@jejune_jmccc) July 12, 2023
The pudding story was the beginning of the end for Ron.
— DowntroddenInDC (@DowntroddenInDC) July 12, 2023
In desperate attempts to resuscitate his campaign, Meatball Ron and his wife, “America’s Karen,” keep attacking LGBTQ+ people. They’ve both released virulently homophobic ads over the last couple of weeks, even earning criticism from George Santos.
Weirdly, the DeSantis campaign is trying to paint Trump as pro-LGBTQ+, pointing to his previous ambivalence about these issues, such as when he said Caitlyn Jenner could “use any bathroom she wanted” at Trump Tower.
But obviously, those sad efforts aren’t working. GOP diehards are bailing on DeSantis, and the Murdochs are seemingly leading the way.
“According to two of the sources, [Rupert] Murdoch has privately winced at DeSantis’ nonstop cultural-grievance strategy, arguing that it is being executed sloppily,” writes Rolling Stone.
DeSantis may say he’s playing the long game, but it’s increasingly apparent his hate mongering ways are just leading him further into the abyss.
To quote his top rival: “sad!”
DeeeSantis has the personality of a cardboard box. Anyone that likes him probably enjoys eating unseasoned fried chicken as well.
— Tubesock Shakur 〽️ (@Bluecipher_) July 12, 2023
DeSantis definition of free speech. Goebbels lives!
— Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) July 11, 2023
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abfab
His dominatrix wife must have him on a starvation diet. His normally puffy face looks drawn, sunken, sullen, gaunt.
Like his brain.
henare
that’s probably the ozempic face going on…
abfab
Could be, but she’s the one who wears the pants in that household..”Now Ronald, you know how the camera adds 50 pounds to your dough boy figure and appearance!” “Put down the lasagna””!
happy2gether
Oh. So THAT’S what it looks like when the soul leaves the body?
Louis
Two questions for the Americans from a Brit:
Who would be worse as the Republican presidential nominee; Ron or Don?
Who would be better as the Republican presidential nominee (out of any/all, not just the 2) – “better” could mean because they would be less of a threat, or “better” could be because they have the least anti-LGBTQ+ attitude compared to the other Republican contenders.
abfab
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Openminded
I’m a Republican so I can give you my 2 cents worth. Ron would be worse for the Republican party as the nominee AND the American people if elected. Not that Don would be good for the American people IF elected. DeSantis is quite simply a grown up classroom bully that is willing to use taxpayer dollars to blatently bully and punish anyone that speaks against him. I’m not a Trump fan either, as he is a more typical politician who still abuses the taxpayer dollars, but at least he does it the old fashioned way, under the table and behind closed doors. Trump actually has a few decent conservative policies but his arrogance and New York attitude makes him behave stupidly and makes him ineffective working with any other politicians, no matter which side of the aisle they are on. IDK what has happened to the majority of Republicans in this country since Trump’s first tour. They are like brain dead zombies that can only see Trump as the savior that does no wrong. It’s worse than any mother who refuses to see her children do anything wrong.
As for your last question, I don’t know of anybody good that would be willing to step up and be POTUS. America’s politicians have become so far removed from the people that they have no idea what average Joe’s are going thru and sadly don’t appear to care. This goes for both parties. Washington is full of elected officials that have great salaries, great insurance, great retirement, and great exposure to insider information on investing. They have no real reason to pay attention to or care about the voters anymore. Any great leaders that we might have in business or educational institutions are too honorable to get into the crookedness of politics.
abfab
@openminded. Admit it, you’re a Trump fan, if you’re being honest……. and I quote you…and I would say your ”bully rating system is twisted”.
”Not that Don would be good for the American people IF elected. DeSantis is quite simply a grown up classroom bully that is willing to use taxpayer dollars to blatently bully and punish anyone that speaks against him”
There’s a place for you……LOGCABIN DOT ORG
A BRIGHT FUTURE/MISSION STATEMENT
We will continue working to build a stronger, more inclusive Republican Party based on the principles of freedom and fairness for all Americans. We are proud to endorse President Trump and look forward to working with his administration.
ScottOnEarth
Without question, DeSantis is far more dangerous than trump. While trump is a bumbling, corrupt, narcissistic grifter, his primary goal is his own advancement (and protection afforded being POTUS), while DeSantis is absolutely hell-bent on destroying the Queer community and the rights of most marginalized Americans, including women. For some reason, he has set his demented sites on us and would gladly – and swiftly – seek to obliterate all of our rights if given the opportunity. Look what he has done in his own state. He is far more demonic and pointedly hateful than trump. Don’t get me wrong, they’re both hideous excuses for human beings, though.
Louis
@abfab I’ve just looked at that site you mentioned (log cabin). In reading the main site and mission, it all seemed really positive – trying to make the Republican Party and the country inclusive for those in the LGBTQ+ community. Great stuff.
But then, hidden away on another page, is the point you brought to light; they’re supporting Trump for 2024. That seems so antiquated to the rest of their site. Given the vitriol Trump spouted and laws he enforced that victimised and discriminated against our Trans brothers and sisters, how on earth can they say they want equality for the community and then endorse Trump?! Reading their “reasons” on the Washington Post site makes clear they have no real reasons. Most of them are “He helped local businesses and families; which just so happens to include LGBTQ businesses and families”. Which really isn’t a reason to support him.
It goes to show, really, that Log Cabin’s mission isn’t what it claims to be, but is actually simply to have a Republican in power; regardless of whom it negatively impacts.
LumpyPillows
They are both an existentially danger to the planet. The only reason this would be a choice is to determine who is least likely to win and then pick them.
LunaLena
They BOTH want to be fascist dictators. I think that is quite evident. If Trump gets in office again he will do everything in his power to stay in power no matter what the cost. He’s tried it once and he’ll try it again. Only this time he’ll have a better executed plan. Desantis is under the thumb of Murdoch right now. He’s Murdoch’s puppet and does any and every thing Murdoch says do including all of the laws he’s passed in Florida. So, either one of them is a nightmare. I think the biggest mistake the Democrats are making is putting all their eggs in one basket with Biden. That in itself is scary.
DBMC
Neither Don nor Ron would be a good candidate. They’re both terrible in their own way.
I suppose there are a few Republicans who would be less bad but they will all appoint anti-gay judges and none of them will stand up to their base to support us.
Sorry “Openminded” but any centrist would buckle to their crazy base just like Susan Collins and Lisa Merkowski. None of them are our friends.
Kangol2
If the US had to have a Republican, it should be someone like Charlie Baker, the twice-elected GOP governor of Massachusetts, who wasn’t and isn’t batsh!t crazy and who was able to work with very liberal Democrats at times to pass all kinds of legislation that helped the people of Massachusetts. Baker won both of his races easily. The problem is, he’d struggle to win a GOP primary in most of the US, because he’s not a MAGA-loving conspiracist.
Don the Con and Ron deFascist are both horrendous. The first is a lying, treasonous, rapist, racist psychopath who attempted a coup in the US, should anyone of us ever forget, and carried out Putin’s foreign policy for him, and the second is a far-right whiny authoritarian nutcase who thinks he should and can use the power of government to ban and punish everything he doesn’t like. He’s also anti-immigrant (in a state full of them), anti-Black (in a state with the 2nd or 3rd largest Black population in the US), and anti-LGBTQ (and rabidly so). And he’s goes out of his way to let you know in case you think he might just be faking!
Openminded
@abfab. You either chose to misquote me, or you cant comprehend what you read. I am not a Trump fan and never said I was. I do agree with some of his political positions, but not many. He’s a typical NY blowhard that has disgraced America on the world front and caused damage that probably will never be gotten over. I am one of the few Republicans who can step back and allow myself to see what he is and has done. I wish more Republicans could do the same and I also wish more Democrats could step back and honestly evaluate our current POTUS. He’s not much better at his job than Trump was, but there are as many blinded Dems supporting him as there are blinded Repubs still supporting Trump. It’s way past time for Americans to elect a good president, not just their chosen parties candidate.
Openminded
@Louis. The Log Cabin group is not really much better than the KKK in that it is an old school group that refuses to move into the future. You should always remember, NOBODY is going to post an “About Us” page that paints them in anything but a shining light. Just as you did, you have to read between the lines to find the real truth.
abfab
”He’s (President Biden) not much better at his job than Trump was………” Says OPENMINDED.
You’re a fool.
Mack
I think Trump will walk away with the nomination because people want to hate. I don’t think he has a chance to win the Presidency because people have already seen what kind of a failure he is. What I’m concern about is Tallahassee Mussolini will be stronger the next cycle. The only way the Republicans win is with hatred.
Openminded
I believe DeSantis has seen his best days and he will never be given another shot.
Mattster
I would not be so quick to dismiss DeSantis. His current poll numbers are higher than Trump’s were at this point when Trump first ran in 2015.
Likewise, I am not confidant that his anti-gay anti-woke message is not working, or won’t work. We, nor even the public at large, are not the intended audience for this stuff. He is playing to Republican primary voters, which are VERY different from voters at large.
The Republican Party will struggle to steer away from this current conspiracy-minded, hate-filled, and extremist crop of leaders so long as their primary voters keep nominating them. This is especially true in House races, where their Gerrymandering has meant that in many districts, the real final vote is in the primary, so candidates compete for the reddest voters, not the middle.
Neither Nixon nor their patron saint Reagan could ever win a major Republican primary anymore.
I hope they are not successful, it’s distressing that as bad as Trump is he got nearly 47% of the vote.
abfab
Is it any wonder why the Gay right wing MAGA GOPTROLLS spew so much bullshit?
Right-Wing Websites Connected to Former Trump Lawyer Are Scamming Loyal Followers With Phony Celebrity Pitches
A mysterious network called AdStyle is placing ads with fake endorsements from celebrities like Oprah Winfrey and Elon Musk on conservative sites based in the U.S. and abroad.
ProPublica
Openminded
If we’re all being honest, there isn’t a single good candidate for POTUS running. As a Republican, I pray DeSantis goes away as I think he’s even worse than Trump getting back in. I certainly don’t want to see Trump in charge again, but I have little confidence in Biden either. First time in my 6 decades of life that I can’t even bear to vote for the lesser of the evils.
abfab
The lesser of two evils? Does a non-evil republican exist? You must enjoy being demonized. Vilafied. Scapegoated. Desparedged on a daily basis. We are done trying to ”get you”. But at least you’re being honest. How noble of you.
ScottOnEarth
You have to be kidding. Biden is arguably the most progressive, effective President this country has ever had. In regards to Queer rights alone, he is a staunch advocate for codifying serious protections into federal law and he’s very vocal about his support, as his entire administration. He has the most diverse administration that we’ve ever had…and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Your assessment of the current options is scary and I hope you manage to educate yourself before you vote.
Louis
Having seen how Trump behaved the last time he was in office, and since then through the British media (BBC), I can see why Trump would not be a good candidate/president.
Through this site (which could be biased but then the facts surrounding Don’t Say Gay and Drag Story Time speak for themselves), I can see why Ron would not be a good candidate/president.
What is it about Biden that means you feel he’s not appropriate for the presidency? Is it simply because he’s on the other side (much like over here the parties will refuse to ever compliment legislation brought in by the opposition, even when it’s had cross-party support)? Is it something specific about him (eg British media has shown some of his ‘senior’ moments)? Do you feel he has harmed the Queer community or the country as a whole (because even we in the community must acknowledge there are others outside our community affected by politics)?
LumpyPillows
Holding my nose, I would pick Christie over the rest of the republicans running.
Uncle Joe has done a fantastic job is one is honest about what he has been able to do with razor thin margins; he’s just dangerously old. Gavin Newsome may yet enter the race and he could resonate.
abfab
Calling ”Uncle Joe” old is old.
dbmcvey
Christy would appoint anti-gay supreme court justices just like Trump did. He’s not a friend.
DBMC
Biden is fine. He’s a good leader and he’s an ally, in fact, he’s a hero to the LGBT community. He had the guts to speak out in support of Marriage Equality before Obama or Clinton.
DBMC
Gavin Newsom is not going to enter the race, Lumps. He might run in 2028 but he’s not going to go in and split the party now.
decrans
Desparedged? Dear God, please look into Hooked on Phonics, Abs.
dbmcvey
DeCrans, you work for anti-gay fascist politician Ron DeSantis who has built his career on disparaging LGBT people and people of color, so really, you’re disgusting.
decrans
Do you just waste your life coping and pasting that comment over and over? How pathetic. Go out and get some di©k, Dave Matthews. I’ll take a page out of Abs’s frigid misogyny handbook.
Richard_N
Listening to Ron DeSantis on the stump, it sounds as though he is campaigning primarily on just three issues – his hatred for LGBT Americans, his desire to cover-up information about America’s racist past and present in schools, and his efforts to impose forced birth on pregnant girls and women.
These “wedge” issues seem to appeal to a wide swath of Republican voters. Last year, 56 percent of Republicans told Gallup they approved of same-sex relations. This year, only 41 percent supported them. Nearly half (48%) of Republicans approve of school boards limiting what subjects teachers and students can discuss, while only 39% are opposed. Although a majority of Republicans (54%) support some abortion rights, they want strong limitations on those rights.
So, why is Ron DeSantis flailing in his bid for the Republican presidential nomination?
Is it his personality? Is it his “disloyalty” to MAGA-cult leader Donald Trump? Is it his failure to publicly embrace all of the most bizarre QAnon conspiracies? I really don’t know.
There is good news and bad news. Good news is that DeSantis’s support appears to be shrinking among Republican primary voters. Bad news is that Trump seems to attracting those voters. The best news is that most Americans are opposed to both of them, at least for now.
However, our presidential elections are not based on the popular vote, but rather on a system that uses an arcane and obsolete electoral process providing thinly populated Deep-Red states an outsized voice in determining the country’s president. Despite their unpopularity among the majority of Americans, we could yet see another Trump (or even a DeSantis, presidency.
LumpyPillows
DeSantis is essentially Trump without the cult. DeSantis will fail. My hope is someone else takes out Trump. I could not live through 4 more years of a vengeful, orange danger to the planet.
The only card the republicans have is opposition to the looney left overreach with their social agenda to overthrow the patriarchy – as if the patriarchy wasn’t already essentially dead. The republicans aren’t gunning for LGB people as much as the TQIA+ socio-political crowd: those once relegate to the goth kids club, but now super powered by social media into totally vicious monsters. Not much else in the republican quiver that resonates enough to win an election. One can only hope they come up way short.
abfab
”those once relegate to the goth kids club, but now super powered by social media ”. You’re still trying, and failing. Where the f did you come up with that!
Try again Lumpy.
dbmcvey
Lumps, you say you would vote for Christy who would not be much better than DeSantis for gay people. There are no Republicans who will stand up for us against their base.
abfab
Stay in NJ, CC. Why would a Gay man even bring up his name. Dreadful.
LumpyPillows
Pathetic reading skills. There are people who just like to argue – a major part of the problem. I never said I would ever vote for Christie.
Abfab – take off your blinders, you may get hit by a car.
abfab
Yes, I do read too fast sometimes (always) so I’m sorry about that, old chap. And welcome back to the fray. ox
GayEGO
Oh my! Ronnie is losing his battle! It will be interesting to see who wins the GOP primaries!