There’s been a lot of talk lately about comedians making what many consider to be off-color jokes attacking people’s identities.
Nimesh Patel is an Emmy-nominated former Saturday Night Live writer and standup comedian. He recently headlined cultureSHOCK: Reclaim, an annual charity event produced by Columbia University’s Asian American Alliance, where things didn’t go so well.
In fact, they went pretty horribly.
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About 20 minutes into his set, 32-year-old Patel, who was the first Indian-American writer for SNL and has opened for comedians such as Chris Rock, began riffing on the experiences of gay black men in America.
“No one looks in the mirror and thinks, ‘this black thing is too easy, let me just add another thing to it,'” Patel said.
The joke was met with crickets.
In an op-ed published by the New York Times, Patel writes:
I open by saying I live in Hell’s Kitchen, a diverse area in New York populated by, among others, gay black men who are not shy about telling me they don’t approve of what I’m wearing. I try to learn things from everyone I encounter, and one day I realize oh, this is how you know being gay can’t be a choice–no one would choose to be gay if they’re already black. No one is doubling down on hardship. … The joke bombed — total silence in the crowd of several hundred students.
The joke didn’t just bomb. It struck a nerve with several members of the audience, who began heckling Patel for cracking jokes about race and sexual orientation.
Patel responded by insisting the joke wasn’t meant to be offensive, telling students that once they graduated and entered the real world, they would better understand. But before he could finish explaining himself, his microphone was turned off.
Patel writes:
This particular joke has worked at New York clubs full of gay people, black people and college students multiple times. I didn’t think twice about using it in a room full of smart, progressive young adults.
In an official statement, the university’s Asian American Alliance apologized for ever inviting Patel to their event, saying his remarks “ran counter to the inclusive spirit and integrity of cultureSHOCK and as such, the choice was made to invite him to leave.”
“We acknowledge that discomfort and safety can coexist, however, the discomfort Patel caused was unproductive in this space,” the group wrote on Facebook.
Meanwhile, Patel isn’t buying it.
“I believe the student leaders were wrong to cut my mic,” he writes, “but as a person, I cannot control how people think and how they react.”
Do I think that students missed out because I didn’t finish my set? Of course I do — it’s my material. … When you silence someone you don’t agree with or find offensive, not only do you implement the tactic used by the people you disdain; you also do yourself the disservice of missing out on a potentially meaningful conversation. You cannot affect change if you are not challenged.
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Catholicslutbox
“smart, progressive young adults.”
Amalgamate
as opposed to to “young backward rednecked republicans”
Chrisk
Maybe I’m missing the context but it doesn’t come off as very funny. You don’t want your joke to bomb when making fun of people.
Xzamilloh
Jokes don’t always land, but the point is to make the attempt. From what it sounds like, he didn’t even get to finish the joke and them deciding to cut his time before he can creates an even more hostile air.
This is the one small part of the left I don’t like, and yes, it also exists on the right, but I’m talking about this
Amalgamate
Xzamiloh-he finished the joke and no one laughed (hint-read the article)-thats what I hate about the ignorant-commenting without reading first!
Brian
Xzamilloh: He finished the joke. Read! He went on to explain the joke, and tell stories about why it should be seen as funny.
Comedians would say, you’re not supposed to explain your jokes, and if you do, it’s a bad sign. The turned his mic off because he was lecturing them.
David
I’ve done stand up locally, and honestly I got so sick of the local comedians wanting to make “woke gay jokes” when half the time they were just playing up stereotypes. But they saw themselves as woke, so it’s okay.
At the same time I don’t see a problem with the above joke. It seems weird to cut his mic, though in my experience people don’t cut mics quickly, so he probably said something he’s not acknowledging.
Wicked Dickie
Did you have a problem with Kevin Hart’s joke?
Amalgamate
Wicked-Hart didn’t make jokes-he tweeted FORTY TIMES calling a person a phaggot
Kangol
His hosts were a private organization at a private university. They didn’t like his joke and thought it offensive, so they cut the mike. The joke was stupid–some people are happy to be black and gay, despite the intersectional oppressions they face–and he bombed. Don’t be a snowflake because your crappy jokes don’t fly. Some jokes work in some places and don’t in others, and as a person of color–a brown-skinned South Asian American cis-het man–he should know that he’s treading a dangerous line with jokes like that. But the more basic fact is, the joke sucked, he sucked, and the cultureSHOCK: Reclaim organizers found the joke offensive and had the right to respond as they saw fit.
Xzamilloh
They had every right to cut his mic and to have whatever they desire in their space. It still comes across as them being overly sensitive more than him knowing how to read the room. In any case, nothing happened. A comedian’s joke didn’t land and that’s pretty much it.
Geeker
The joke sounds like a real dud but to heckle him and then cut his mic after the first joke seems a bit…precious of them.
Amalgamate
they gave the bigoted colored man twenty minutes!
Brian
They didn’t cut his mic after the first joke. He spoke for 20 minutes. It says right there.
People in the comments are just making things up. Blurry reality, writing a new reality. Ugh
PinkoOfTheGange
He wasn’t heckled and cut off for a bad joke, which with out of context it is hard to judge; they did it just on based on its subject. And this is why so many comedians avoid Uni’s now.
BTW anyone comparing this to Heart’s tweets just doesn’t understand context.
Amalgamate
Hart didn’t joke-he called people phaggots FORTY times-screw that little midget
Sanjo
The home fits into the position that being gay, like being black, isn’t a choice. Who would choose to be discriminated or hated by others. In a world of acceptance, they point would be moot.
dean089
George Lopez says stuff like that all the time. There seems to be a severe case of pick-and-choose when it comes to what’s offensive.
inbama
He’s also not funny.
Vince
I can’t stand George Lopez. Besides the humor is stale. He’s been doing the same schtick of being the Mexican since forever.
Miffopro
And this event was named “cultureSHOCK”? That’s the really bad joke.. ?
Eye of the Beholder
“No one looks in the mirror and thinks, ‘this black thing is too easy, let me just add another thing to it,’”
The joke isn’t offensive by any measure so either they were offended because you asked them to examine their own privilege or you didn’t set the joke up well enough for its meaning to not have been misunderstood upon first impression.
Those students are either kicking themselves in hindsight or relishing a very strategic victory.
Abraxas020
I agree. As a, black gay man I APPLAUD this joke. Astute & finesse.
inbama
The idea of gay black men criticizing the clothing choices of complete strangers in Hell’s Kitchen doesn’t ring true.
PinkoOfTheGange
If you are friendly with them when they are out on the stoop…it is totally plausible. Now do i think it happens daily..no.
Rock-N-RollHS
I’m gay and I’m not offended. Grow up.
StevieeB
Those 3 women hosts need to just suck a big black gay dick.