GOP Death Watch
GOP DEATH WATCH

Are You Ready For A Trump Presidency? The Odds For It Are Growing

how-much-donald-trump-makes-in-speaking-fees-compared-to-everyone-elseThe first vote in the 2016 presidential primary is just a few days away, and the only thing for certain is that we now reside in a political universe where all the laws of physics no longer apply.

Thanks to an orange-haired blowhard, everything that would normally sink a candidate–insulting a war hero, holding positions that are antithetical to conservative orthodoxy, having a personal history better suited to a Real Housewives episode—have only resulted in sky high poll numbers.

At each step along the way, pundits have declared Donald Trump to be political roadkill. Instead, as voting draws near, the reality is that Donald Trump is the man to beat. And it’s not clear who among the rest of the field can overtake him.

Case in point: last night’s Republican candidate debate. Trump decided not to participate because Fox anchor Megyn Kelly once had the temerity to ask the candidate about his attitude toward women, which allowed Trump to prove once and for all that he’s a sexist. So who ended up winning the debate in which Trump did not particpate?

Donald Trump.

By his very absence, Trump was front and center for the entire debate. Meanwhile, the remaining candidates–particularly Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz–spent the time tearing into each other. Nature abhors a vacuum, and it’s a sad commentary on the rest of the GOP field that it fits that definition.

At the same time, Trump claims to have raised $6 million for veterans at an alternative event and proved to his fans yet again that he’s not beholden to the political establishment. It’s a testament to the forces that Trump has unleashed that Fox News, itself the one-time establishment alternative, is now being swept along as yet another example of an enemy of liberty. That’s a fitting irony, given that Fox almost singlehandedly created the angry, alternate universe over which Trump now reigns.

Once the first votes are cast, we will be able to see if Trump can translate his popularity into a sure path to the nomination. But polls show that he will have a strong showing in Iowa (whether or not it’s the first place). If Cruz doesn’t win Iowa, his campaign will take a hit. If none of the establishment candidates (Bush, Christie, Kasich and Rubio) emerges soon after as the alternative around which everyone can rally, there’s a good chance that Trump can ride the chaos all the way to the nomination.

Already, the Republican establishment is beginning to make its peace with a Trump nomination, largely because a Cruz nomination fills them with even more dread. As anyone who has studied the stages of dying knows, bargaining is one of the earliest strategies. But at some point, the party will have to learn to accept that it really has come to the end of its current life and figure out what its future looks like.

In the meantime, a Trump presidency may not be quite the far-fetched punchline everyone thought it was just a few weeks ago.

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183 Comments

  • Scott Mitchell

    First – winning Iowa and New Hampshire doesn’t guarantee the Republican nomination. Second – if iTrump does get the nomination, I predict a third party run by a GOP candidate who suddenly becomes an Independent. Third – if he doesn’t get the nomination, I predict Trump will do a third party run as an Independent. In either scenario, a third party means better chance of a Democrat winning the presidency.

  • joeyty

    Trump’s viability never should have been a punchline. I voted for Obama and this time I might vote for Trump (though it’s still too early..)

  • roroking

    @joeyty: how can you consider voting for trump if you supported obama?? they have opposing views on literally every single issue lol.. do you just vote for whoever’s making the most news?

  • joeyty

    @roroking: Because times change and there are different people right for the job at different times.

  • Alexander R. Rodriguez

    HELL YES!!! !! Time to put political correctness in the garbage can where it belongs along with Progressive Liberalism!!

  • Desert Boy

    A Trump presidency is indeed, very likely.

    Hillary is still under investigation for her email mess and the FBI may recommend she is indicted. Imagine that unfolding during her first year in office. Quite frankly, the Clintons, are just so yesterday. Hillary didn’t even get around to supporting marriage equality until 2013. Talk about a Johnny-come-lately.

    The rest of the Republican field is just nuts: radical, rightwing extremists who don’t belong in the White House. Personally, I like Bernie Sanders, who has a long record of support for the LGBT community and he advocates for Single Payer healthcare which is far better than the disastrous Obamacare healthcare system.

    Trump isn’t afraid to call a spade a spade. He can say, “radical, Islamic terrorist” unlike Obama and Hillary, who refuse to name the enemy.

  • joeyty

    @Desert Boy: “Trump isn’t afraid to call a spade a spade. He can say, “radical, Islamic terrorist” unlike Obama and Hillary, who refuse to name the enemy.” I think that’s a huge part of his appeal. And everytime he’s attacked for it it only seems to increase his popularity. Because the public is truly tired of professional politician p.c. nonsense.

  • DCguy

    @Markajv:

    The ratings were down, and Trumps numbers are up. He didn’t lose.

  • AJAnders

    For years and years, I’ve viewed Trump as a side show. He’s the kind of a guy you would see on Jerry Springer if they had billions of dollars. His arrogance is so over the top that it’s gone past the point of being comical. He probably masturbates to pictures of himself.

    For the first few months, I thought he was running for president just as a publicity stunt for the Apprentice. Now, as time continues to pass and he’s insulted almost every kind of minority group, he keeps getting more and more popular. I’m starting to think there could be footage of him punching puppies and that would get him another 500,000 supporters. This is not funny anymore.

    If I’m being punked, I’m not amused.

  • joeyty

    @AJAnders: Like JFK wasn’t an egotist ? FDR ? And, no, I’m sure Trump’s supporters love puppies. (Whereas P.C. liberals are the cat-lovers).

  • joeyty

    @AJAnders: BTW : The thing that DOES suck about Trump is his financial support for Cyndi Lauper’s Rainbow…House? (whatever it’s called). I know the two are friends and it’s like being obliged to buy Girl Scout cookies from your friend’s kids, but….c’mon (a beautiful place in NYC where people up to 25 years old get to live for free on any shakey claim of having been thrown out of the house for being effeminate ??)

  • Desert Boy

    @joeyty: I agree. We’ve had a president for 7 years who just can’t get his lips around those three words. Obama’s also allowed ISIS — a group of radical, Islamic terrorists, to grow from 18,000 in 2011 to 150,000 to 200,000 today.

  • BigWill

    Donald Trump is bulletproof, Teflon-like…whatever you call it, absolutely. I am positively baffled by the cognitive dissonance of people who say things like “there are different people right for the job at different times.” Here’s a man who inherited his wealth and went on to declare bankruptcy four times, yet his supporters believe him to be a great businessman. You think the vendors and suppliers and contractors—all the people who didn’t get paid for work they did or services they provided—believe he’s a good businessman? As John Mulaney said: “Donald Trump is what a hobo imagines a rich man to be.”

    Here’s a man who’s going to be “the best job creator this country has ever seen,” who’s going to throw all the immigrants out of the country and build a wall between and the U.S. and Mexico (and make them pay for it!) who, at this very moment, has migrant workers building his new hotel in D.C. and has all his Trump merchandise made in Mexico, Vietnam and China.

    You can present all this to his supporters—and it just doesn’t matter. It’s beyond mystifying; it is staggeringly sad.

  • joeyty

    @Desert Boy: Well…wait a minute ! I’m not against Obama. And don’t want to debate that. Obama’s not running. But, yeah, we agree on Trump’s attributes.

  • Scott McIntosh

    No the odds for it are not growing. Trump has about 40% of the 45% of US voters who might vote Republican at the election, thats 18% of the total vote. Second, even the Americans are not stupid enough to let him get near the levers of power. Third he is such a dolt that he is sure to make a complete arse of himself before the election. Fourth some do-gooder will blow his brains out before Inauguraton Day, I am sure lots of people would pass the ammunition

  • joeyty

    @BigWill: “As John Mulaney said: ‘Donald Trump is what a hobo imagines a rich man to be.'” I thought it was Rich Uncle Pennybanks from Monopoly the “hobos” (!) were imagining.

  • Berkleyguy

    No days would I vote for Trump on any level.

  • MinnesotaNotNice

    Everyone needs to sit back, keep calm and stop losing their shit over Donald Trump. This clown has zero chance of winning the election, let alone securing the nomination of the Republiclown party. Not showing up at last night’s debate went a long to towards signaling to everyone that he is unfit for the office as he cannot handle being asked questions about serious issues and has no ideas on how to solve some of the problems that we face. Repeatedly screeching that “I’m a deal maker and I’ll make good deals with Russia and China”, doesn’t mean shit anymore after already hearing it a dozen times. Trump craves attention, the spotlight and bullying people…..that’s it. Sure, he holds many of the angry white voters in his hands, but when taking a look at eligible voters as a whole, they aren’t nearly enough to win. The unknowns as of now are still whether or not Trump goes 3rd party at some point and if Michael Bloomberg runs as an Independent. Iowa and New Hampshire are beauty contests, nothing more. Remember how in 2012, Michele Bachmann won the Iowa caucus? Where did she go from there?

  • joeyty

    @MinnesotaNotNice: “Everyone needs to sit back, keep calm and stop losing their shit over Donald Trump.” What do you mean by “everyone” ? Some of us here think he’s a good candidate.

  • HollyScorpio

    Bernie is my pick! Polls show that Bernie against Trump has Bernie winning. Trump against Hillary it ends up being a tighter race.

    If we want to prevent Trump we need to vote for Bernie. Most Dems under 45 are supporting Sanders. Most Dems over 65 are supporting Hillary. There are more people of voting age under 45 than 65. Do the math.

    We need to rally around Bernie to defeat Trump.

  • MinnesotaNotNice

    @joeyty: Everyone’s entitled to their candidate, but I can’t honestly see anything redeeming in his character or positions which would make someone want to vote for him. Why do you like him?

  • wilson h

    What is amazing is that of all the comments so far that several are leaning or going to support Trump!
    For me I am tired of every day for seven years hearing nothing but negative comments from the current president. He is only happy when he is talking about himself.
    We have a former sec of state who refused to answer the phone in the early morning hours of sept 11, 2012. Perhaps because her boss was in a tight race for his second term.
    Now of course we have the email scandal…jail anyone?

    My suggestion for the trump haters is to pick up his book. You can get it for free online. Read it. Written in the late 80’s it is the same guy you see today. A shrewd workaholic who likes to win. WIN! What is wrong with that and no he did not inherit his billions. He did inherit his drive and ambition.

    Is Trump for real? Yes…most definitely. Do you think with both Dems and Republicans that millions have not already been spent trying to uncover a shady past. ( perhaps a monica giving him a BJ on his jet?). Maybe one of his kids who had a DUI and daddy bailed them out? Got to be something? Who better to find out then the slim Clintons who have been there and done all of it. I am sure she is looking…I can hear her scream…”find something on that mother fxxker!!”

    Yup, I am for Trump..let him set washington on it end.

    Sent from my iPad

  • joeyty

    @MinnesotaNotNice: Because he speaks bluntly and honestly. Not like a politician. Maybe part of it is because I’m from NYC too (the tribal vocal appeal). And besides (although I hate this to be a reason), no other candidate in either party has anything to offer. And if Queerty hates him…..it’s points right there.

  • nmharleyrider

    He is the only candidate who can afford to say what he thinks not what people want to hear because he is not beholden to any particular group or lobby

  • JetsetTX

    @Scott Mitchell: I agree that a Trump nom is far from a sure thing. I disagree, though, that a 3rd Party or Independent Candidacy would increase chances of a Democrat winning necessarily. If it’s someone on the right then yes but if it’s someone like Michael Bloomberg who says he’ll
    Run and spend $1B if either Trump or Sanders wins their nominations then I think it would help elect a Republican.

  • joeyty

    @wilson h: He WOULD drive the DC establishment right up the walls.

  • Kieran

    We should be celebrating that some of the GOP’s most notorious homophobes….Cruz, Rubio, Carson, Huckabee and Santorum are all being soundly thrashed by Donald Trump and his “New York values”. And we all know what Cruz and his ilk mean by Trump’s “New York values”. It’s hill billy code language that Trump may very well be a closet homosexual Jew.

  • joeyty

    @Kieran: Who was the bitter-pussed one who said “I don’t know what he is” when asked if he thought Trump wasn’t a Christian ? It was pretty funny.

  • Cagnazzo82

    He’s only a lock for idiotic conservanutcases who hate Mexicans and other minorities.

    The joker hasn’t made a single formal policy proposal that’s even remotely realistic.

    Once he’s done playing with the nutcase base in the republican primaries then he has to contend with the real country.

    Maybe he should look to Romney as to how that might go if he keeps it up with his wall rhetoric and holding his hate rallies across the country.

  • paul dorian lord fredine

    @joeyty: you claim to have voted for/supported obama but lionize trump’s ‘attributes’….personally still trying to figure out exactly what they are. commenting here on queerty so i’m guessing you claim to be gay or, at least gay-friendly, but bash cyndi lauper’s charitable endeavor to provide help for gay teens and young adults who have been disowned. and then insult them for insinuating they present ‘shaky claims’ for their circumstances. that one thing alone shows that you and trump truly deserve one another: you’re both lacking in empathy (or at least that which you claim to possess is phony and only there to serve your needs and be what it can do for you). i’m going to have to stop now because if i go on i’ll be calling you descriptive names and telling you what you can do with yourself and where, things not fit for decent company.

  • JetsetTX

    I am amazed at how many of you are willing to vote for Trump who says all the things people want to hear but never says how he intends to do it or pay for it! A snake oil salesman if I ever saw one!

    Bottom line, go vote! If people sit at home and don’t bother then we deserve who we get! Go
    out and vote! And keep in mind that the next President will likely change the makeup of the Supreme Court for years to come! Kiss marriage equality goodbye if a Republican wins! Kiss the right to privacy in your own bedroom goodbye! Kiss many things we now take for granted goodbye! If that’s not reason enough to vote against any of the Republicans running then I don’t know what the hell is. To me, currently, that is the most important issue of all because it will have the biggest impact on my life. That and a skyrocketing deficit and National Debt caused by however many wars any of the Republicans running will start. The only Republican I might be somewhat at ease with is John Kasich though he is no friend of unions and union busting would also have a big effect on my life.

  • DarkZephyr

    I will admit that I would prefer Trump over ANY of the other GOP Candidates but I certainly wouldn’t prefer him over Bernie Sanders or even Hillary Clinton. Trump is the least anti-gay of the lot…but does this mean he WON’T appoint conservative SCOTUS judges that are rabid homophobes? I don’t know. I guess I would like to know what is so great about Trump according to @joeyty: and @Alexander R. Rodriguez: and others who are so gung ho about him that I as a gay man who wants full equality and dignity in this country should vote for Trump in order to “defeat” Hillary and Bernie. what would recommend Trump to me as an LGBT person who doesn’t want his rights trampled? And maybe I am imagining things, but it seems to me that Trump is not very popular overseas…part of what we need in a president is someone who can be a diplomat when it comes to relations with our allies and other foreign powers…we can’t forget that there is a whole wide world out there in addition to the USA. What would recommend Trump to someone who doesn’t want our positive relationships with other countries to collapse?

  • MinnesotaNotNice

    @joeyty: Your reasons for supporting Trump are the reasons I am supporting Bernie Sanders. He doesn’t tailor his words and thoughts like Hillary Clinton does, he doesn’t have an integrity problem like Hillary Clinton does, he is not in bed with Wall Street and the banks like Hillary Clinton is. Trump comes off as being a xenophobic and angry white man. His constant statements that America is worse off under Obama than we were under George W. Bush are absolutely laughable to me. If he had both anger and solid, reasonable, logical stands on how he would handle a resurgent Russia, China’s ambitions in the South China Sea, immigration, the federal tax code, ISIS, crumbling US infrastructure, etc… Then I could easily see him as someone I could support, but I see none of that with him.

  • joeyty

    @MinnesotaNotNice: Nothing wrong with xenophobia these days. And it’s angry white men who got us gay marriage state by state. But…thanks for your points. I understand. I’m sure I’ll be considering Sanders too. It’s still so early yet.

    • Cagnazzo82

      @joeyty: If it were up to the Trump crowd you would have *never*, ever gotten gay marriage passed any of those states.

      In fact the Trump crowd is responsible for the gay marriage bans state, to state, to state.

      Let’s stop fabricating recent history and giving credit where it *DEFINITELY* is not due.

    • Cagnazzo82

      Go to Breitbart.com and read the lively comment section. Go to Freerepublic and read the lively comment section. Go to any story linked by the Drudgereport and read the lively comment section.

      You know exactly what the Trump crowd is like.

      The most angry/hateful/irrational segment of the American population by a mile and then some.

      People are voting for Trump above the other republican candidates because he promised to build a great wall across the entirety of the United States of America… and have Mexico pay for it.

      That’s what you’re now voting for. The supposed ‘Obama supporter’ that you once were.

      The real problem with America these days is that we don’t have a wall across the entirety of the South right?

      It’s not education, it’s not healthcare, it’s not infrastructure, renewable energy. Nothing substantive that actually matters. It’s all emotional nonsense… xenophobia… yelling the loudest. Insulting this person and that person, and holding petty grudges.

      There is nothing to Trump is offering aside from playing on the vices and fears of a woefully gullible crowd.

  • James

    @Alexander R. Rodriguez: Also I looked at your Facebook page and you have no friends, not one. I think you are some kind of spammer using Facebook to make yourself appear gay but your real intent is to promote homophobia.

  • James

    @joeyty: I think you are crazy and I dont believe you voted for Obama. I know a phony when I see one.

  • James

    @DarkZephyr: It is obvious Joeyty and Alexander Rodriguez are phony, people who are republicans masquerading as gay people in order to divide and conquer. Rodriguez has no friends on Facebook, absolutely none, and allows no comments on his Facebook page. Rodriquez also does not appear to live in America, so I think he is a republican masquerading as gay in order to cause trouble. Same goes for Joeyty.

  • joeyty

    @James: Did you know some people don’t accept any Friends on Facebook because they don’t want the distraction ? Facebook isn’t High School again, to see how many friends one can amass.

  • joeyty

    @James: I’ll give you my phone number and we can meet if you want to see how phony I am. The only thing I’m worried about is being blinded by your dorky clothes.

  • joeyty

    @James: LOL ! divide and conquer who ?? On Queerty ?? Yeah..because this site holds such sway with the general public and is so full of wisdom. Like : ‘Will Smith’s kid “leads the way” with wearing skirts!’ And “why we should bond with Syrian refugees.” “Why Imus pretty much deserved the cancer he got.”

  • DCguy

    Trump hasn’t grown into being able to be a candidate. The GOP has degenerated to the point where Trump and Cruz are now ABLE to run as their candidates.

  • joeyty

    @James: SanFranSilly clown. Dressed like a Pimp Clown.

  • James

    @joeyty: I see, you are a narcissist, you post and suddenly everyone is talking about you. As for my clothing, I doubt you have ever done anything for gay rights in your whole life. I dont believe you voted for Obama either. I think you are a narcissist who wants everyone focused on you no matter what irrelevant or useless comments you make.

  • joeyty

    @DCguy: There could be SOME truth in that, granted. I still think Trump was aways viable, but the GOP goofballs make him look even moreso.

  • joeyty

    @James: Shut up, doofus. You’re everything that’s wrong with gay men and nothing that’s great about them. You’re probably an alcoholic Scotch drinker who lives on Bette Davis movies and did high kicks of joy that so many mick firemen had died on 9-11. And you equate drag queens with Voltaire.

  • joeyty

    @joeyty: I remembered. It was Jeb Bush. But in fairness I don’t know if Bush meant Trump wasn’t a practicing (enough) Christian or whether he was hinting that Trump, being rich and from Jew York City, was….a member of THAT tribe.

  • Lio de France

    French, I am not concerned. You can vote for any candidate : it will be the same result : you will have the New World Order, as us in France. And there, you will painfull bites your fingers.

  • James

    @joeyty: None of your comments are true. Based on you assumptions AND YOUR COMMENTS you are OBVIOUSLY NUTS and a NARCISSIST.

  • The Tower of Power

    @Alexander R. Rodriguez: Political correctness is even worse under Republican administrations. I seem to remember the Dixie Chicks getting death threats after one of them said she was ashamed of Pres. Bush.

    As far as progressive liberalism is concerned, it is on the rise, as you will find from talking to any political science professor. Conservative politics are on the decline with the increase in Mexican-American and Black populations.

    • Cagnazzo82

      @The Tower of Power: Not just death threats. There were country radio stations holding CD smashes where people got to stomp on Dixie Chicks CDs. And basically speaking out about Bush ended their careers.

      It’s not just political correctness under republican administrations that’s an issue. It’s the borderline fascist mentality that goes with it amongst the Republican base.

      When their president is in office if you dare criticize they basically go batshyt.

  • joeyty

    @Cagnazzo82: You would think gay ghetto types would have wanted anyone with the name “Dixie” killed anyway.

  • joeyty

    @The Tower of Power: Okay, hick. But if you think the Mexican-American and black populations are liberal at least as far as gays go, you should be here to see Rev. Reuben Diaz leading his homophobic masses.

  • joeyty

    @Cagnazzo82: Well…I’m in the Trump crowd, and I’ve never been to Breitbart or any of those. So….I’m guessing we’re a more varied group than you present. (But I’ll accept the Breitbart crowd’s votes !)

  • The Tower of Power

    @joeyty: I urge you to go on YouTube and search for “Not Ready to Make Nice” by the Dixie Chicks. The song won a Grammy. It is about being threatened for taking a stand on something, but refusing to back down. Anyone who has dealt with anti-gay attacks should find it moving. I can’t listen to it without it bringing a tear to my eyes.

  • James

    @Cagnazzo82: I think with Trump anyone who does not agree with him will also be “stomped”. He promotes hate to a huge degree.

    • Cagnazzo82

      @joeyty: Yet in spite of 43 previous white presidents it took the first African-American president to support gay marriage openly.

      Meanwhile pretty much all white politicians on the republican side either tolerate holding their nose (only because they were forced to) or outright oppose it.

      If John McCain had been elected DADT would still be the law of the land and we wouldn’t even be talking about gay marriage.

      Stop bringing gay rights into a debate when it involves republicans… They’re in fact the one party responsible for passing marriage bans in all 3/4ths of the states prior to the Supreme Court knocking them on their asses.

  • joeyty

    @DarkZephyr: But you’re one of those self-hating gay men who actually WANTS the U.S. to admit more Muslim homophobes to fullfill your self-hating snuff fantasies, so…..that’s how you’ll vote.

  • The Tower of Power

    @joeyty: Reuben Díaz is only one activist. The Mexican-American population as a whole is far more progressive than he is.

    Plus his views reflect an older population. Younger people tend to be much more accepting.

  • joeyty

    @James: You promote hate. And, perhaps, animal abuse. Your types are vile.

  • joeyty

    @The Tower of Power: Diaz has lots of influence in NYC though. For varied reasons. You are correct though that Hispanics (a varied bunch) generally polled equally in favor of same-sex marriage with whites, and in at least one case scored higher. Not so with African-Americans, though even they might have gotten a bit better as far as the gay thing goes. I don’t know about the new population of high-achieving Asians and Indians though.

  • joeyty

    @The Tower of Power: Most gays want Texas bombed into oblivion too. Look at the posts under ANY story on Texas here on Queerty.

  • The Tower of Power

    @joeyty: African-Americans are becoming more accepting under the leadership of Pres. Obama. As with Whites, it is mainly older Blacks who support homophobia. Younger people of all races are much more accepting.

  • Cagnazzo82

    @James: That is very much likely the case.

    Just check out the way he reacts to protesters appearing at his rallies. The guy has an incredibly nasty streak that comes out when his inflated ego is challenged.

    It’s the exact same nasty streak that has kept up this absurd feud with Megyn Kelly for no apparent reason whatsoever.

  • DCguy

    @joeyty:

    Have you ever read any of your postings? You sound seriously unhinged. Check your meds, and relax.

  • joeyty

    @DCguy: I’m not the one with the illusion that everyone here who supports Trump is somehow connected or sent out by the same agency to throw a wrench in the works of the Almighty Queerty like you and others seem to. Better check YOUR meds.

  • money718

    Trump all the way. He is not some religious nut who will harm gay rights. If you look at his old you tube clips, you can tell it has always been AMERICA 1st with him. Time for something different.

  • joeyty

    @Cagnazzo82: Larry Kramer has more of a nasty streak. But his protests were correct.

  • joeyty

    @Cagnazzo82: Yes, I credit Obama with that. But a lot of that, too, was because the time was right (we couldn’t look like the hick cousins of Europe). But, still…good for him. But go back and look at the states that legalized gay marriage. What was the racial makeup there ? And I’m not trying to criticize blacks here. I’m just asking Why is ‘angry white man’ a bad thing ? Wasn’t Martin Luther one ? Wasn’t Michelangelo ?

  • Mack

    Whether you like Trump, Hillary or Bernie (the rest aren’t even worth the time) what’s important is not their policies or how great they are it who they’re going to end up appointing to the the Supreme Court. The appointments they make will outlast any time they serve as President. A Conservative appointment will take us back to the 50’s. Think about the long term effects over the personalities you pick.

  • Brian

    A lot of people admire Trump’s ability for straight-talking. He calls a spade a spade. America has been dragged down by political correctness and definition-twisting, including by the GLBT community.

    Trump has exploited resentment towards PC perfectly.

  • joeyty

    @Brian: “Trump has exploited resentment towards PC perfectly.” That’s a pretty good way to put it.

  • Hussain-TheCanadian

    What is Trump for anyway? What are his policies?

    The only thing I find interesting about him is his Anti-interventionist foreign policy, but other than that, no clear policy.

  • Bob LaBlah

    After last nights debate I say Christy is the best choice out of all of them. The problem is the baggage that he is bringing to the table. I am not voting this time around.

  • silveroracle

    Some of us don’t like Trump in the UK.
    I just feel that having him as president in the USA would be like having Putin as president.
    I feel that LGBT rights would just move back into the dark ages.

  • Kangol

    @Bob LaBlah: But Christie has been a TERRIBLE governor of New Jersey.

    Christie is an incompetent homophobe under whose tenure property taxes have gone up, pensions have been gutted, public unions severely harmed, and many homeowners have been left in the lurch.

    He’s dogged by scandals going back to his time as US Attorney under George W. Bush. Google halfway house scandal, Bridgegate, Port Authority, Newark Airport, Rowan University Medical School, etc.

    He loves to scream at teachers, especially women.

    He is in the pocket–a huge one–of Wall Street.

    He singlehandedly held up same-sex marriage when a majority of New Jersey voters AND legislators were ready to push it. (New Jersey has already had an out gay governor.)

    He lies through his teeth, and is a faux-moderate who keeps moving further and further to the right.

    Did I saw he was a homophobe? And a [email protected]

    If you put Christie in there, you might as well vote for Trump. At least Trump wouldn’t be stupid enough to pass up billions of government dollars to build a tunnel to Manhattan that would make him and everyone else there richer. Christie actually did that. Now both New York and New Jersey have to suffer because of one of his terrible decisions.

    Why won’t the media cover how awful Chris Christie is?

  • Kangol

    @The Tower of Power: Ruben Díaz is not MEXICAN, he’s PUERTO RICO!

    Jesus H. Christ, not all Latinxs are from the same national origin!

  • The Tower of Power

    @joeyty: I like some rap. A lot of rap from 1980s and 1990s was homophobic, but it is not so bad now. I listen to Jay-Z and Missy Elliott. I like a lot of Eminem’s older music; his newer stuff is less creative.

  • Kangol

    Just a thought. Barack Obama wo in 2012 with the lowest percentage of white voters of any Democratic winner, and he still comfortably defeated Mitt Romney.

    So if the GOP and its supporters, including some gay people on here, think it’s a good idea to support an incoherent, [email protected], misogynistic fascist like Donald Trump, they will probably get another shock, just like they did in November 2012.

  • joeyty

    @silveroracle: How so ? Re. gay rights. (And at least, with Trump, we wouldn’t have a Rotherham rape epidemic like you guys had).

  • joeyty

    @The Tower of Power: Look…I understand what you were saying about age being a factor re. people accepting gay equality. It’s true, but… it’s still just one factor.

  • The Tower of Power

    @Brian: I thought political correctness was a much bigger problem under the last administration than this one. Do you remember the Dixie Chicks scandal? All they did was say they were ashamed of President Bush.

    Public statements about this president are even more inflammatory, but to my knowledge, no birthers are being threatened with death or being stalked for their positions. The birther movement is basically accusing President Obama of committing identity theft and fraud. It claims he is not a legitimate citizen of the USA, despite the state of Hawaii producing documents saying he was born there, and newspaper articles announcing his birth there in 1961.

    By the way, Trump has been a supporter of these smears.

  • fredbear

    @Alexander R. Rodriguez: of course you do realize if it weren’t for “progressive liberalism” marriage equality would just be a dream, and not a reality?

  • The Tower of Power

    @Brian: Trump represents the the most divisive aspects of the country.

    He has amplified a trend of character assassination. Instead of defeating ideas he dislikes with better ideas, he instead impugns the character of his opponents, and I find that rather un-American, quite frankly.

    Using Twitter to call people “losers”, “stupid”, “idiots”, and “deviants” is doing nothing to enhance our political discourse.

    It IS entertaining to listen to him, but it is not good statesmanship.

  • joeyty

    @The Tower of Power: I don’t care if he’s a sonofabitch. As long as he’s MY sonafabitch. (But I still despise his support of Cyndi Lauper’s trans house).

  • joeyty

    @The Tower of Power: Besides, that vicious closet gay billionaire Barry Diller DID deserve getting called out by Trump.

  • joeyty

    @Kangol: It’s irrelevant here, anyway. Christie is Catholic and status-hungry gays will still never vote for a Catholic (or even an ex-Catholic). They probably don’t even realize Trump is Protestant.

  • Giandorko86

    It’s going to be fun watching president trump from the Oval Office

  • Brian

    The country has 11 million illegal entrants. People don’t like that.

    The concept of male homosexual desire has been hijacked by the gay rights movement, which has now become the GLBTQI movement. People don’t like that.

    Women who abort their babies are called “empowered women”. People don’t like that.

    When people resent the state of the world, they usually vote for the person who brings in the fresh air.

  • joeyty

    @The Tower of Power: They’re wonderful. (But Truman Capote’s insults in his last interviews were much funnier).

  • joeyty

    @The Tower of Power: He’s ripping to shreds the Bushes, Bobby Jindal, Catholics, Glenn Beck….all the people the Queerties love to hate. Yet…they still hate Trump..?

  • o.codone

    It’s absolutely the end of any politician, democrat or republican who bring in arab gay-haters, conduct fake wars, drone children to death, ruin the economy, try to take your gun, overspend by trillions, support slicing up babies in utero, endorse insider trading by their colleagues, burden the workers with garbage health insurance, are so incompetent that everything they do is by executive order, refuse to condemn Hillary for Benghazi and the email scandal, ALL THESE POLITICIANS ARE FINISHED, EVERYBODY HATES THEM, THEY HAVE FAILED. Hence the popularity of Mr. Trump. And, hell yeah, I’m voting for him. And so are a lot of gay men. Wrap your head around that.Enough bull sh it is enough. America has had enough.

  • BeachDaddyDave

    I don’t understand how “he speaks bluntly” qualifies him for the White House. Speaking bluntly is hardly an advantage and, even if it is, what the heck has that got to do with his policies???? Speaks bluntly and is a policy trainwreck! What are you people thinking??? Hitler spoke bluntly. Mussolini spoke bluntly. Stalin spoke bluntly, Ghadaffi spoke bluntly……on and on it goes. Listen to yourselves! You frighten me.

  • Alistair Wiseman

    @The Tower of Power:

    You are equating criticism with political correctness. They are not the same.

    Political correctness is a euphemism for lying; for ‘that which offends the left’.

  • James

    @joeyty: An endorsement of Trump is an endorsement of racism, corporate greed, less money for everyone, social security cuts, states rights over national rights, religious freedom laws passed, extreme immigration controls plus harrassment and arrest of immigrant aliens. Those who endorse Trump want all of that whether they say it or not. Plus the general chaos of uneducated right wing kooks screaming, Kill, Kill, Kill. But mostly more money will be given to the 1% and corporations will be given more power, to take over national parks. This is why Trump is not stating his positions on running the government. Like Hitler in Germany everything will be based on hate. This is a prophecy.

  • James

    Remember the “mandate” given when George Bush Jr. was elected, and look what we got and where we are. Trump can convince almost anyone to hate themselves and feel the whole time they are helping themselves. After all he said recently, I could kill someone and you would still vote for me. And the rednecks screamed, yes my lord.

  • James

    Ultimate and ruthless ambition is never a good thing.

  • James

    Would you die for Trump because you may have to, for example bringing back the military draft to fight in corporate wars.

  • James

    Vote republican, they are so good for gay people.

  • Alistair Wiseman

    @James:

    Your fear mongering knows no bounds.

    Please adjust your tin foil hat.

  • martinbakman

    If a brokered convention nominating Bush #3, then we’re fvcked. Not just us gays….
    No more Bush or Clinton presidents please.

  • joeyty

    @BeachDaddyDave: Hitler did not speak bluntly. Unless you agree with what he was saying. Hitler lied.

  • joeyty

    @The Tower of Power: Why won’t anyone who’s anti-Trump go to this link, read the quotes,and tell us which he disagrees with and why ?

  • joeyty

    @James: Yeah…but you also think I’m here to “divide and conquer” and never said who I’m supposed to be dividing, Pimp Clown.

  • joeyty

    @James: “extreme immigration controls”. Yeah, like that’s such a bad thing. How about we just move the Muslim refugee homophobes and rapists to San Francisco ?

  • 1EqualityUSA

    What the Hell happened to Queerty? This used to be a cool site. Paid to fan out over the net?

  • aldanzion

    I dont know if Trump is a homophobe? But I know that Obama, like him or not,on some issues, has done well for Gay folks. We are in a better position legally now than we have ever been.
    I am a Republican, and when I consider a Hillary Presidency, I feel it would be just 4 to 8 years of Obama-leftovers on most issues.
    Bernie Sanders has some radical ideas that I don’t think we can pay for.
    So the American public will have to decide.And here is the interesting thing I am researching currently.
    What is the real underlying mood of the people? I feel there is a huge frustration among our people at the Washington set-up that no longer works.There is fear of the Radical Muslim threat.
    There is economic stagnation and and exodus of corporation jobs going , for example to Mexico, China, and India.
    There is a huge trade imbalance with those countries. We owe China Billions.
    And , a disturbing probability of a second economic bubble bust. This time not in Housing,,but in our very own currency.
    I consider history,,and the rise of demagogues of the past.
    In 1936,in Germany,many wealthy German Jews laughed at the antics of Hitler, dismissing him as a madman,whose appeal would pass.
    By 1939, he was in control and issuing the Nuremburg laws,that invalidated those peoples right to exist.
    They failed to see the overwhelming mood of the People. At such a moment ,are We at,now.
    We in the LGBT community stand at risk in this country. Things can be taken away from us legally, just as they were given. There are no guarantees of freedom.

    I know that Trump has tapped into the same frustration and anger that Hitler used in pre war Germany. I am not saying he would become a Hitler. But he is using many of the same methods.
    Do I vote for Hillary or Sanders out of fear of Trump if he becomes the Republican candidate?
    Or, do I vote for Trump,out of fear of what our Country will become ,even Weaker on the international scene, than we are now.
    We have time to watch events as they unfold, and decide in the booth.
    We live in strange times, and this screen play is still being written. When I have the research done on Trump, I will publish what I have on here and you can decide.
    Meanwhile, lets not rush to pre-judge.
    Shalom
    AldanZion.

  • joeyty

    @1EqualityUSA: When was it cool ? When it was practically cheering that Don Imus had gotten cancer ?

  • joeyty

    @aldanzion: Not quite like Hitler. Trump criticizing Muslims raping women in Rotherham England and Cologne Germany is based on fact. Hitler’s demonization of Jews wasn’t.

  • Dakotahgeo

    @Scott Mitchell: I do believe you are spot on the mark! I would cherish a 3-way Republican write in ticket… now THAT… would be delicious!

  • Dakotahgeo

    @Scott McIntosh: THANK YOU! Spot on! Where are the runaway trains when tRUMP is crossing the tracks???

  • Kieran

    I can tell you succinctly why Donald Trump is so popular with Americans.

    Donald Trump is the only candidate running for President who is saying what the American people have been saying for years:

    (1) We don’t want more of the Establishment’s lousy trade deals that send US jobs overseas for the cheap labor.
    (2) We don’t want Open borders. The US needs a secure border. We need a pause in immigration to assimilate the immigrants we have here already, Muslim or otherwise.
    (3) We agree with Trump that it is stupid to allow mass migration of people into the US while 90 million Americans are already out of the workforce or partially employed.

    The current Political Establishment (of both parties) have mede it clear that they don’t care what the American people want. Donald Trump offers a chance to overturn the corrupt Political Establishment and offer real hope and change for the American people.

  • 1EqualityUSA

    Donald Trump’s favorite Supreme Court justice is Clarence Thomas. What a fucktard.

  • joeyty

    @1EqualityUSA: Well…maybe he’s friends with the guy (like with Cyndi Lauper) and gotta say that.

  • joeyty

    @Dakotahgeo: As though anyone from the disastrous UK has anything to add here.

  • joeyty

    @Kieran: I’ll tell you this, though….if he gets elected I’m going to hold him to extremely high standards as far as making changes in the right way. If you’re not beholden to any party, I’d expect that. Being without those shackles, and with that healthy ego, should enable one to go far. I want changes in everything from immigration reform to rescuing the immense homeless population from off the streets of San Francisco, NYC, Los Angeles, etc. I’m just one person, but I hope I represent millions.

  • Bauhaus

    This thread is depressing.

  • Maude

    @Brian:

    More like 23 million.
    Double whatever number you are given, and add another million and you will be much closer to the true amount of illegal aliens that have invaded the USA.

    I may hold my nose and vote for Trump on that basis alone.

  • 1EqualityUSA

    Bauhaus, “Depressing.” Good word for it. I thought LGBT would be smarter than that. Presidents come and go. SCOTUS is for life. We’re screwed sideways if these ‘tards vote the way this thread is running. Queerty has been overrun with roaches. Truly sad. It used to be such a solidarity safehaus in terms of our equality, except for BJMcFrisky (Ann Coulter.)

    • Cagnazzo82

      @joeyty: On the flipside you believe Donald Trump is going to build a Great Wall across the south of the US, and you actually buy into his bull about ‘we don’t win anymore! When I’m president we’re going to win so much it’ll make your head spin!’

      Total BS nonsense. Dude can’t even stand up to scrutiny so he’s running away from a debate scared that Megyn Kelly might hand him his ass.

      Again, good luck if he’s planning on attempting these tactics in the general. He might’ve united a bunch of gullible cons via racebaiting and ad hominem personal attacks, but that only goes so far with the general public.

  • 1EqualityUSA

    and damaged paid-per-comment psych-cases such as jason smeds (brian) are the sprinkles on top of this depression cake.

  • man5996853

    @joeyty: Yes, but the right person for the presidency will never be Donald Trump.

  • joeyty

    @1EqualityUSA: Overrun with roaches for sure. One guy here from the UK celebrates the possible murder of Trump. Another celebrates putting down the Bushes….but not when Trump does it; and….well, anyway, Queerty is the site where people actually believed the fantastic Delta, Utah, Rick Jones gaybashing case, and hides from the Cologne New Years Eve rapes

  • joeyty

    @1EqualityUSA: “Solidarity safehaus” ? If you want that you join a club where everybody thinks the same. This site is advertised as having no agenda except that gay one, right ? And gays and lesbians range from Ernst Roehm and Allen Ginsberg to Angela Davis and Tammy Baldwin.

  • 1EqualityUSA

    Except that gay one, not freakerRepublicantakeawayourrightsGOPclowncarone.

  • 1EqualityUSA

    joeyty, That’s what makes me believe this site is infested with people paid, by the comment, to try to sway the gay. No person who has felt as dejected and demoralized as we, by inequality, would allow harm to come to our hard-won legal status. We are equal citizens, yet there are politicians and others saying that we should not be recognized as full citizens. I find it difficult to understand how someone could truly advocate for a Republican. The party has lost its way. So this desperate dark, oppressive entity goes about the business of cheating, gerrymandering, suppressing, and using “commenters” on blogs and disproven propaganda to try to stay relevant. The political oxen on the Supreme Court made me feel unwelcome in my own Country. Can you not see this too? gay?–hardtobelieve. Hired to come here and try to beat a drum that looks and sounds cheap. Disingenuous and not an ally. One who would recommend we vote for a party, seeking to undermine us is not our friend. The tone is changing on Queerty. It feels infiltrated with people trained to sell. Certain cults actually train each other how to sell their points and worm around just about any little challenge. It wouldn’t surprise me if there were these “sellers” here. It disappoints me. I can smell smarm. It’s less fun to be here now, knowing and feeling that the others are disingenuous. True, blue bummer.

  • 1EqualityUSA

    I reread my comment. Sorry that it was so comma-challenged. I’m so dyslexic and challenged. Very tired. I’m going to go detail the bathroom and scrub tile. Good day, joeyty.

  • joeyty

    @1EqualityUSA: Bellevue is calling. Not the least because you give so much credibilty and importance in your life to this silly-dilly site.

  • 1EqualityUSA

    joeyty, I hear you.

  • 1EqualityUSA

    it captured a time in our lives, in writing. that’s very valuable to me. i have to go. I’m bummed the site was infested.

  • Kangol

    @joeyty: You do realize, don’t you, that gay people have repeatedly voted for Roman Catholic politicians who support same-sex marriage, and that the states with the largest percentage of Roman Catholic populations were among the first to legalize not just same sex marriage but also provide state protections for LGBTIQ people (Massachusetts, California, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Maine, Maryland, Rhode Island, Illinois, etc.).

  • joeyty

    @James: Hey Clown Pimp. Abuse any other animals today ?

  • joeyty

    @Kangol: No they didn’t. Name me one gay who did. And the first to legalize same-sex marriage were lily white Protestant states like Vermont, New Hampshire, Iowa…

  • Alistair Wiseman

    @1EqualityUSA:

    Please forego the histrionics and embrace diversity!

    I thought that was what your party was all about; diversity and inclusion. Who am I kidding, your party has never embraced true diversity – diversity of thought. Your diversity is as superficial as the colors in a box of Crayolas. Now that there is an inkling of diversity on the pages of Queerty, you can’t take it. And as a good leftist, you resort to conspiracy theories.

    Do you really think that the Republican party could be bothered paying someone to “infiltrate” this shitty and unimportant website?

  • 1EqualityUSA

    why are you here, if it’s so unimportant? The Supreme Court is my primary concern.

  • joeyty

    @Alistair Wiseman: He or she is right about the Supreme Court concerns, but some of these folks are really paranoid with that assumption any political party cares about Queerty. Now THAT’S an ego thing. (But most people here are a mixed bag).

  • Alistair Wiseman

    @1EqualityUSA:

    Do you really think that in the election of the most powerful person in the world, that Queerty would play some sort of “important” role?

  • 1EqualityUSA

    Do not underestimate the internet, Alistair. If you felt this site was toothless, you wouldn’t be here squeezing one out all the time. Your message is consistent, I’ll give you that. It’s an inordinate amount of time you spend countering others’ opinions….here.

  • Jerry12

    It is about time we had a President that will not be beholding to RICH supporters.

  • Jerry12

    @wilson h: It is too bad that most voters will not have read your comments. If they had, there is no way the “Other Guy” could win. Well done!

  • joeyty

    @Jerry12: To pander (probably) for votes using the anti-gay-marriage thing to hook the arch conservatives as he recently did really sucks, though. I can’t support him after that. He should have taken the position he always took. Basically: “Gay marriage is a done deal. Move on..”

  • joeyty

    @Alistair Wiseman: The other thing some of the Queerty clique (and other blogs) try to pretend is that infiltrators are there to “divide and conquer”. But they never say who they’re supposed to be dividing. Sometimes you see statements like, “You’re a right wing troll, we’re on to you!” “We’re” on to you. The illusion of a unified group or tribe. The Fat Joe Jervis blog is big for that too. THESE are the ways the internet has become a bad thing. When it replaces real life, one is in trouble. People don’t realize anyone can drop out of here at any time and no one will remember his name three days later. (How many posters here have ever met in person ?)

  • 1EqualityUSA

    I wonder how many people Trump left holding the bag when he claimed bankruptcy four times. I wonder if he ever felt compelled to pay them back after becoming solvent.

  • James

    @joeyty: Still voting for anti-gay marriage Trump. You need a mental hospital, you are a danger to gay people.

  • batesmotel

    The second you said, “Thanks to an orange-haired blowhard”, you lost all credibility. Try offering intelligent reasons as to why you’re against him and avoid using derogatory comments so people can take you seriously.

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