Not all liberal voters are with Hillary Clinton. A prolonged primary against a more progressive candidate, plus the two email scandals – her own and that of the DNC – have left many left leaning voters floating the idea of a protest vote. Many LGBTQ voters still don’t see Clinton as a true ally, usually pointing to the fact that it took her until 2013 to support same-sex marriage as their main example.
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While a protest vote against Clinton and the Democratic Party may feel good, and may even be somewhat justified, what are the practical implications? Clearly, it helps Donald Trump, a man who is still against same-sex marriage, for RFRA laws and for anti-transgender laws like HB2 in North Carolina.
This is obviously true if you live in a swing state, such as Ohio, Florida or Pennsylvania. But what about in the non-swing states?
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Let’s take a look at some of the reasons you might want to be hashtag “Girl, I guess I’m with her,” even if you’re in a solidly red or blue state, where the electoral votes seem all but already counted.
1: Repudiate Donald Trump And His Rhetoric

Want your vote to send a clear message of protest? Who better to protest this election cycle than Donald Trump? It is a stain on our nation that we have allowed a bloviating, fear-mongering, bigoted bully ascend this high. We can and must do better. We can start moving in a more positive direction, and showing the rest of the world that this man does not speak for us, by handing him an embarrassing large defeat at the polls.
Let’s also send a clear message to those who plan to run for president in the future that the politics of fear and division are no longer a workable playbook.
Let’s show that are values are still against the bully who mocks the disabled, assumes any woman who dare cross him must be “on the rag,” calls for banning practitioners of a religion from our country and putting those already here to register to be put on a database, encourages violence at his rallies, and suggests his political opponent could be assassinated in order to stop her Supreme Court picks.
Run and protest that in November.
2. Sometimes The Polls, Pollsters and Pundits Get It Wrong

While polling is the best tool we have to measure likely election outcomes, it is not an exact science. In fact, polling is becoming harder to do accurately.
In a recent article for the Los Angeles Times, Urban Institute’s chief methodologist, and vice president of the American Statistical Association, Rob Santos explains why polling participation rates have plummeted over the years.
Thirty years ago, polling in the United States was simple. Most homes had land-line telephones, most people at home actually answered the phone and more than 70% were willing to participate. Polling life was sweet; it was easy to find a representative sample of likely voters.
Like all boom times, a bust was just on the horizon. The new millennium arrived, introducing a renaissance of new technologies (cellphones, the Internet) and lifestyles (social media, crowdsourcing). Younger adults embraced new ways of consuming and sharing information. Americans as a whole decided they were too busy to answer survey requests and became more wary of strangers asking probing questions. Polling participation rates plummeted to single digits.
We need look no further than this year’s primaries to see examples of the polls getting it wrong.
The pollsters and the pundits, even the usually reliable and oft lauded Nate Silver and his FiveThirtyEight website, told us Trump didn’t stand a chance at winning the Republican nomination. Yet he won upset after upset, until he was the last man standing in a crowded field.
Clinton, on the other hand, was expected to walk away with the Democratic nomination with barely a fight. Yet upset victories by Sanders in states like Michigan and Indiana kept him in the race much longer than anyone would have initially predicted.
It’s getting to the point where polls may soon have to start carrying disclaimers similar to horoscopes: For entertainment purposes only. Okay, maybe not, but we certainly cannot rely on them to always get it right and we should read them with a healthy dose of skepticism.
3. This Is An Unusual Election

Donald Trump is not your typical politician. So much so that the electoral map may look different this year than in years past.
Trump is struggling to convince voters in Utah, for instance, that he deserves their vote. He has also gotten some push-back from the evangelical Christian crowd, many of whom question his commitment to their values and social concerns. Interestingly, he brought up his problems in Mormon rich Utah while speaking to evangelicals recently.
While he did better with evangelicals during the primaries than many expected, the Republicans still need high turnout from this voting bloc to ensure a victory. If enough of them are turned off by Trump and decide to stay home, that could spell trouble for the Republicans winning even the typically red states.
4. He’s Already Crying “Rigged,” A Blowout Helps Shut That Down

Like many a loser before him, and likely many a loser after, now that it looks increasingly like Donald Trump will not be our next president, he is starting to argue that the rules of the game are rigged against him. He is even asking his supporters to police the polls against voter fraud, with a sign-up form on his website for those who wish to volunteer to be a “Trump Election Observer.”
Assuming he is defeated in November, he will undoubtedly make this argument no matter how badly he goes down. You can almost already hear him saying, “They want you to believe that I lost by how much?! There’s no way that many people would vote for Crooked Hillary!”
The closer the race, the more legs that argument has to run around inside the heads of conservatives voters and in the press. That’s true if for no other reason than this: America hates a loser. On that much, our country and Mr. Trump agree.
Xzamilio
Don’t fucking tell me what to do, Queerty!!! It’s grating enough I have to choose between this bitch a crooked sociopath… I’ll let you figure out which is which.
It’s more of #ImWithHer #NotByChoice #LesserOfTwoEvils
#BernedOut
passingthru
“there has never been a man or a woman — not me, not Bill, nobody who is more qualified to be president than Hillary Clinton”. I’m with her all the way. Love her. There is nobody that I’d rather vote for. I send her money every week. Love her!
Ronbo
One does not change a corrupted system by doing the exact same things that created, continue and exacerbate the system.
The choice between the two most hated politicians in history is not an accident. The 1% knows how to motivate the public to vote for their favored candidate.
Yes, Hillary is better than Trump. But, there are many candidates on the ballot and I have a conscience that has learned that “hope” is a poor reason to vote for someone whom I KNOW will work with Republicans to further enrich the 1%.
Are you ready to say “she had no choice but to cut DADT, DOMA and to cut Social Security with Newt Gingrich”? I’ve seen it posted here about her Husband Bill, you know Bill, the Liberal one!
dwes09
@Xzamilio: “Bitch?”
A little sexism here?
Please provide proof of her bitchiness, compared (for example) to Trump, already bitching about “rigged elections with no facts of even rumors to back him up.
As for her being crooked, the right has spent huge (to quote trump HUGE) amounts of time and sums of money to try and pin something substantive on her, with no luck.
As for “the lesser of two evils”:
He’s a clear sociopath and liar with no experience in international diplomacy or foreign policy. hid brags and promises imply he has no understanding of either the constitution or the quotidian workings of government.
She is an experienced and effective career politician with a clear liberal leaning but centrist base (keep in mind that the contemporary right is SO far right they see centrists as being far left), the highest honesty rating of any of this year’s crop of candidates prior to the primary. She has unfortunately been a lightning rod for right wing hatred, misogyny, and conspiracy theory.
The choice seems clear to me. And by the way, an article stating reasons is hardly “telling you what to do”. Don’t fucking overreact, try thinking clearly.
mcdfishfilla
I get it, Queerty has a love crush HRC, but I don’t. Keep posting this crap and I’ll get my gay online culture elsewhere. The last source I’ll use as a reference to decide on who to vote for will be Queerty. Thanks but no thanks.
passingthru
@Ronbo: …said the folks who voted for Nader and gave us Dubya. Yes, the planet is so much better off. Good for them and their consciences!
Brian
Hillary is a do-nothing candidate. She struts stages – that’s all she does. She lacks a conscience and has ties to homophobes.
zedus headus
@Brian: This is an opinion piece. They are on every news web site. You read them. They exist to provoke thought, introspection and perspective that might be new to the reader.
For those of you that believe that Trump is a viable alternative, or that your independent candidates morally superior or that there is not a vast chasm between what a Trump presidency would be compared to a Clinton administration, then I say be very careful friend. That hole you are blowing in our life raft will drown us all.
zedus headus
@mcdfishfilla: “Gay online culture”. You need to reference the web to tap into the community? How about you go outside and volunteer at your local community center. If you don’t have one, then start one. Gay online culture, sheesh.
Your threat sounds like a win-win for everyone.
zedus headus
@Xzamilio: I am going to go out on a limb here and say that you are just angry, hunh? How about you keep your toxicity in your own house and post when you have something constructive to say. Your post just drips with condescension and self-righteousness. Why don’t you turn that frown upside down?
I would rather hear for whom you are voting and why in a positive way. When you interview for jobs do you trash the other candidates, or are you rational and sell yourself?
Lord.
dwes09
@Brian: Let’s see…Clinton “has ties to” homophobes (which means , when coming from the right wing that perhaps she had to deal with them at some point, or is two or three degrees removed) But Trump has been actively courting them, has promised to work towards getting rid of marriage equality, and has promised evangelicals that the country will be much more to their liking under his “rule”.
I am constantly amazed by gay folks who work against their own self interest.
Please provide examples of her doing nothing in her political career, and please show how she lacks a conscience (remember that nothing the right imagines she has done have stood up in court or have any factual support, whereas Trump has demonstrated HIS lack of conscience many times in the small contractors he has stiffed and the people he has capriciously sued, as well as screaming about american jobs when he shipped his collateral production jobs to China and hires illegals in his resorts).
Once again, imagination is not the equivalent of reality.
Brian
Trump is a social liberal, a fact that puts him at odds with the Right Wing base of the Republican Party. He is pro-choice on abortion.
Bauhaus
@Brian:
Stop lying. He’s NOT pro-choice (he was in the past) and he’s NOT a social liberal. Trump has repeatedly said he would nominate pro-life and anti-gay Supreme Court candidates, hoping to end legal abortion and SSM.
Kangol
The deranged narcissist that Hillary Clinton is running against is telegraphing to the nation and globe that he really doesn’t want the job. He’s committing hardly any money towards advertising, voter registration and identification, canvassing, anything that any passingly interested candidate for the US presidency would be engaged in. He is basically running a reality show for white nationalists and Tea Partiers, and will sigh with relief when Hillary Clinton soundly defeats him. All I am going to say about her is, Sanders supporters, LGBTQ people, progressives, BLMers, everyone, do not let her off the hook to govern like she’s the second coming of Dwight Eisenhower. Her husband ran as a counterweight to Reagan-Bush, and gave us neoliberalism up the wazoo. We can’t take 4 more years of that crap. Even many of the most r@cist Trump supporters are tired of that mess. We have to tell her, DON’T GIVE US 1980-1988 OR 1992-1998 again!
MediaGuy
There is no way in hell that I will vote for HRC because of her destructive immigration policies. She is no friend of our community. Having lived in London I know what it’s like to have Muslims staring at me on the street. I know Muslims hate me for being gay. They have made that very clear. I cannot be “out” in certain parts of London, so I don’t go there. When we had the riots in 2011 it was clear that some Muslims were hunting gays. All that said, HRC wants to import more than a million Muslims. For what? Muslims will make their anti-gay agenda known in our communities, they will catcall us on the street, they will file lawsuits and they will win. It is suicide for gays to vote for HRC. Think about it.
kevininbuffalo
I’m voting for the candidate whose principles most closely match my own, that would be Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party. I have no use for either the Dems or the Pubbies so why would I vote for them?
dwes09
@MediaGuy: There have been no antigay terror attacks from “imported” Muslims in this country. Just a few from native born americans pushed over the edge into mental illness by the hatred that flows from people like you, and with easy access to weapons assured by people like you. The overwhelming number of attacks against LGBT people, the overwhelming efforts to put us back in the closet, the overwhelming hostility on the streets comes from white evangelical Christians (and to be fair, black ones as well). And Clinton has never made any claims to want to “import” anybody, though she has voiced support for keeping the United States as the refuge it has historically been and to try and absorb 10,000 Syrian refugees. There are 1,000,000 Muslims in this country only a small %age of whom actively hate us. There are at least 30,000,000 Evangelicals of various stripes MOST of whom at least wnat to re-criminalize our “choice”, and a significant number of whom want the punishment to be death. Who are most of the people who have attacked, injured and killed gay men and women and transpeople in this country? THEY HAVE BEEN CHRISTIAN CITIZENS. Hopefully this is simple enough for you to understand.
On the other hand, Trump has SPECIFICALLY said he will try and roll back gay rights advances to please evangelicals, and will appoint SCOTUS justices to further their backwards agenda. That is not fantasy or lies as your post, but based on his actual words.
Please try hard to live in reality. It may not be suicide for LGBT folks to vote for Trump, but it is certainly a vote against our rights and further enfranchisement.
dwes09
@Kangol: The periods of greatest economic stability and prosperity have been under Democratic control of the white house. That is not a coincidence.
The greatest economic crisis since the great depression, the longest running wars in US history, the erosion of science literacy and the denial of environmental crisis, the unimpeded proliferation of HIV, the failed war on drugs, the growth of economic inequity, the withdrawal of funds to maintain infrastructure, the encouragement of income inequity…These have all been brought to us by the republican party and neo-conservatives.
Clearly Clinton is not the greatest thing since sliced bread, but she will be an effective president and continue economic progress while advancing a basically centrist agenda, with a little leaning to the left. There is no sane alternative.
VampDC
NEVER VOTE CLINTON.
She wasn’t there for the gay community when we needed her most. Now that we actually matter she all of a sudden cares?! Bull shit. I’ll vote for a third party or not vote at all before I EVER EVER vote for her scum.
dwes09
@VampDC: Please either enumerate when exactly she “wasn’t there for the gay community when we needed her most”. Then perhaps explain why you have hostility for someone with the intelligence to evolve their views over time.
Finally, if you can; with the knowledge that voting for a third party candidate is meaningless in this country, why would you vote in such a way as to support the election of a man who has specifically said he intends to undermine our rights?
As it happens, Hillary opposed DADT because she understood that it could be used to remove gay people from service rather than preventing discharges as intended. Of course, if by not being there for us you mean she didn’t overturn it…well, last i looked first lady is not an elected position with any political power.
Stilinski26
Hillary puppet of Saudi you know the place where homosexuals are beheaded
VampDC
@dwes09: “Evolve their views over time?” or “Evolve their views with the popular vote?”
Her standing in a pride parade in 2016 does nothing.
If she were to do that as the first lady it could have actually made a statement!!
dwes09
@Stilinski26: In what way is Hillary any more of a “puppet of Saudi” than the bushes were? Her foundation takes money used in direct aid, BFD. Your republican saints, the bushes, held their hands and kissed them on the lips and shared their desire to manipulate the oil industry. THEY were puppets in the truest sense.
GET A F’EN GRIP AND LIVE IN REALITY! Do you guys ever do anything but dissemble!!
The last time there was an execution for homosexuality in Saudi Arabia was in 2000, when several yemeni workers were convicted of rape. When was the last time Christians in the US murdered gay men for Jesus? A hell of a lot more recently. Stop your lies. Stop supporting the narcissistic neo-fascist Trump.
Stilinski26
@dwes09: No the Orlando shooter was a religious nutbag and was influenced by religion and his homophobic father. Go on keep making excuses. Your huge country has only a million Muslims living atm. UK has over 4 million Muslims right now and is expected to double in size in next few years.
Stilinski26
@dwes09: Did you just defended the Saudis? wow just wow. Btw from my knowledge teenage blogger who made fun of Islam was beheaded probably a year ago! Hillary is funded by the Saudis of course shes a puppet. and just because I have a different opinions doesn’t make me a republican heck I am not even from USA lol and guess what I am not white!
martinbakman
I’ll always remember how Hill reminded us about dear Nancy Reagan’s national conversation about HIV. As soon as Billary are back in the White House, Hill can rename that airport to Nancy Reagan International Airport.
robco
Hillary isn’t crooked. Or evil. Or a bitch. She is a smart person who does meet many qualifications to be POTUS. That being said, I disagree with a great many of her positions. That is why I won’t vote for her unless absolutely necessary. I’m not voting for Trump either, that’s just lunacy. Obviously, if you live in a swing state, vote for her. For those who don’t, feel free to make a protest vote.
Someone needs to be opposed to the endless wars we seem to becoming inured to, and that aren’t covered much in the media. Or be opposed to the military-industrial complex and the obscene amount of money we spend on the military. We need someone to be opposed to fracking and the Keystone Pipeline. We need people who will actually stand up for workers instead of corporate interests. Unfortunately HRC doesn’t fit the bill. Sure, she’s better than Trump, but that’s damning with faint praise.
Fortunately, all of the House and much of the Senate is up for grabs. Time to elect a Brand New Congress (https://brandnewcongress.org/home), and realize that Congress is where the power truly lies. No POTUS can get away with things if they are held accountable by, or accomplish good things without being enabled by a responsible Congress.
KerryB
I have just one thing to say to the morons who think a protest vote is a good idea. A vote for a third party candidate IS A VOTE FOR TRUMP! Remember the 5h1t5t0rm of 2000 when Ralph Nader split the liberal vote and we were stuck with eight years of the dumbest president in history and are still engaged in wars that we wouldn’t be in if he hadn’t been appointed by the supreme court. A VOTE FOR A THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE IS A VOTE FOR TRUMP!
Wilberforce
Even after the Nader catastrophe, there’s still a percentage of people too dumb to understand the two party system. They prefer the arrogant and self-righteous party system. It’s no use trying to reach them.
winemaker
Time to once and for all send this lying, thieving disgraceful snake of a presidential candidate packing. What has 8 years of the liberals, AKA ‘dumbocraps’ done for any of us who are middle class, looking for quality jobs and can’t afford the ‘one size fits all’ Affordable care Act. Don’t forget, her philandering hubby, silly Billy crested NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement, sending millions of jobs offshore and enriching Clinton and his buddies privy to this obscenely rich. All while giving American workers who had quality jobs, nothing but unemployment checks and BUPKUS No way will I give this traitorous, lying thieving bitch my vote. Time for the Gay community to get smart and realize she and the liberals pander to us and will bring 4 more years of the BULLS**T giveaways to the bums, freeloaders, ‘boat people’ and deadbeats who get all the free social programs, like in San Francisco, free healthcare, food stamps, educational benefits all on the taxpayers dime all along with giving us ‘crumbs’. Time to think seriously, do your due diligence!.
ErikO
I’m still not going to vote for her no matter how much this site runs ads for her like this. Vote Jill Stein 2016!
@KerryB: If you actually believe that, do you still believe that every vote counts? We desperately need a third party here in the United States and have needed one for awhile as both of the two major parties the Democrats and Republicans have been basically the same for decades.
Mo Bro
#5. She’s left a trail of two dozen “suicides” and “accidents” in her wake on her path to greatness, and if we can’t trust a lying, desperate crook like her to represent us, who can we trust?
Christopher22
@Xzamilio: Don’t fucking tell me what to do, Xzamilio!
Stache
@winemaker:So you think the Repiglicans are going to give us a place at the table? Lol
JessPH
She can defeat Trump. That’s more than enough reason why #ImWithHer
GayEGO
@Xzamilio: This Mary Doogan Bitch is obviously Donella Trumpy! :>)
GayEGO
@passingthru: Right on! Me too!
GayEGO
@Mo Bro: Hey Bro! Definitely not Trump!
GayEGO
@ErikO: Well this EricO is going to vote for Hillary based on factual research, but some people just don’t like a woman boss. At least you are not voting for Trump which is a good thing.
Stache
@Mo Bro: I think your Fox Noise tin foil hat is on a bit too tight this morning.
GayEGO
@dwes09: Well said! I have done the research and I am voting for Hillary.
GayEGO
@dwes09: I am for Hillary who, like most straights, are learning and evolving to support us!
GayEGO
@robco: Right on! Yay Hillary!
GayEGO
@VampDC: And Hillary will!
GayEGO
@VampDC: Just don’t vote for Trump!
GayEGO
@Bauhaus: Trump already picked Mike Pence who as Governor of Indiana signed an anti-gay discrimination bill. Pence says he holds his evangelical religion first, followed by his family, and lastly his country. What a dumkopf!
mdbuck67
Nice to see some fellow gays dare to question the DNC massas. The only way you’d get me to vote for the hopelessly incompetent, terminally corrupt, and thoroughly prevaricating Hildebeast is if you could handle a shotgun. Her “experience” consists of a string of appointments gained via her husband. And the Senate? She was a useless, credit-stealing back bencher. And her disastrous term as SOS is self-evident. This is all while she and “hubby” have been busy selling us out to despots, foreign crooks, and other birds of an oily feather. Just look at the Russian uranium deal.
And as far as gay rights? The Uncle Toms at HRC may step and fetch for her, but it wasn’t so long ago that she and “hubby” sucked up lots of gay dollars only to repeatedly stab us in the backs with DADT and DOMA. And, only three short years ago (right around the time the polls changed…What a coincidence!), she had a position on gay marriage closer to Ted Cruz. So, to all you homo hypocrites who have sold out to the Wicked Witch of Westchester on the altar of political expediency, be careful of your “friends”… For your enemies will take care of themselves.
And finally, to the histrionic (and hysterical) notion that “a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump,” I have one succinct response: Bullshit! If you had nominated someone with an ounce of qualification, an ounce of morals, and an ounce of ethics, I’d vote for him/her. But, you didn’t. That’s not on us third-party voters; its on YOU.
monroerob69
4 dead in Benghazi, 4 reasons not to vote for her.
mw11
Wow, shocking how easily manipulated the gay community is with HRC. She is absolutely not your friend.
She is literally on record for not endorsing Gay marriage, literally telling Chris Mathews from MSNBC in front of an audience she didn’t support Gay Marriage verbatim amid boos – please look it up on Youtube. Of course, she lies about everything and everyone knows it, but that is the core issue on a gay website.
Of course, her husband created DADT and had a very, very, very dark personal life and treatment towards women. HRC was involved with the creation of ISIS and wants to import many, many people whose literal scripture mandates harassing, murdering and harming gay people.
And one of the commenters on this article made an interesting comment about being harassed in London-istan – I too was targeted in London and was randomly harassed. American gays have no clue what is happening in Europe.
Ummm, one of the commenters lamented about Trump talking a rigged election. But, didn’t Wikileaks emails show that DNC rigged it to HRC? Bernie supporters are obviously the most wounded.
Also women’s rights were mentioned by a commenter … on a largely gay men’s online site. So to that commenter, please also know that a lot of women, daughters and sisters were raped in Cologne under Merkel’s administration, without much resolution to the victims. Clinton will adopt that same immigration policy. Please think about your mothers, daughters and sisters.
Furthermore, the Clinton Foundation supports a lot of governments that persecute gay men or limit the rights of women. You do know fellow brothers that gays are thrown off buildings in the Middle East and out-right murdered in Africa right? HRC also was strangely on a child rape case in Arkansas in which she got an alleged child rapist got away with a lean sentence.
But when you vote for HRC and think you are serving the rainbow flag and your country, please note you will have invited into your lives new wars, gay-hating ISIS lovers, terrorism, higher taxes, the rise of African governments that kill gays, corruption, escalation of wars in the Middle East, civil unrest on your city streets and escalated harassment of gays on the streets of Europe and in the US.
The truth always wins. If you endorse those values and behaviors, then that says much more about your character and soul than anything.
mw11
Wow ridiculous just how lost some gay people are. Love talking ideas but she’s has problems. Go find your happiness. Hillary is the worst option.
mw11
Also, one of the dead in Benghazi – the ambassador – was GAY. One of the largest terror attack since 9/11 after Orlando was targeted on 9/11. Media blackout