Is suppressing one’s natural inclinations towards love easier than turning away from the dessert menu at a restaurant? According to heterosexual blogger Michael Brown at the Christian Post the answer is: Yes! Hallelujah, yes!
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In a new, barely coherent blog post about homosexuality and obesity, Brown shares a recent post someone left on his Facebook page. It was written by an “ex-gay” Christian man named Eric who recently had a health scare linked to his excessive overeating:
“I have struggled with weight problems for years and it’s catching up with me,” Eric wrote. “On December 5th I spent time in the E.R. due to dangerously high blood pressure. They’re still working on getting the right combo of drugs to get it under control. I am morbidly obese and it is a matter of life and death.”
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Eric continued: “I left homosexuality behind 6 years ago. That was SO much easier than getting my weight under control. I do understand being isolated from life due to weight. It’s more than just what people think. It is a physical bondage that fatigues and makes just fitting in a chair difficult. Other than learning about God’s word and knowing Jesus there is nothing I want more than to be healthy.”
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In his article, Brown applauds Eric for his “strong words” which are “saying a lot.”
“I know many people who have struggled with same-sex attraction,” he writes, “some experiencing instantaneous, miraculous transformation, others working for years to see those attractions gradually diminish, and still others fighting for decades to see change without any success.”
Brown then goes on to agree with Eric when he says leaving homosexuality is easier because it’s done “by God’s grace,” whereas food is inescapable.
“We need it to live,” he writes, “and we are constantly surrounded by unhealthy food choices.”
He then adds that he can totally relate to Eric’s struggle with eating because he himself is a recovering food addict.
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“I really do understand how difficult the battles are,” he writes. “Even though I’ve been totally free from food addictions since late August, 2014, when my lifestyle transformation began, I live as if one wrong bite could set me back.”
Brown concludes his post by asking readers to pray for Eric, then urging other food addicts to turn to Christ for help.
“If you find yourself struggling with unhealthy eating habits or food addictions, even if you’re not overweight, there is a solid, lasting way out,” he says. “And if you’re obese or morbidly obese, all the more are these promises for you. Even when it comes to food, “If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed” (John 8:36). There is a better way!”
unclemike
@abnerb: You are a horrible person who wouldn’t know a fact if it walked up to you, introduced itself, and then bit your titty off.
Paco
He didn’t leave homosexuality. He just quit putting himself in situations where he would be sexually rejected due to his weight problem.
Herman75
What a hypocrite!! Typical Christian.
abnerb
@unclemike: I want to go into women’s bathrooms if there are pretty women in there & if a pretty woman wants to use men’s bathrooms, then that is fine with me. I want a pretty woman to go into men’s bathrooms but I wouldn’t want uglies like Ellen Lee DeGeneres and Rosie T. O’Donnell shitting in any bathroom as they’re ugly so Ellen & Rosie can shit in diapers. Ellen Lee DeGeneres & Rosie T. O’Donnell both probably like to have farting & shitting contests in bathrooms, so Ellen & Rose both want to do battleshits contest in men’s bathrooms since women’s toilets got dirtied by them.
abnerb
@unclemike:@Paco:
Ted W. Lieu who sponsored the California law is against therapy for gays and lesbians who want to be straight as California law banned it for minors. Don’t be surprised if in future, Ted W. Lieu or those like him would ban therapy altogether for gays/lesbianism and the 2012 law is first step. Ted W. Lieu is likely an apologist for sex changes and Ted W. Lieu sees nothing wrong with giving a kid hormones to make them fake opposite sex members. Childhood sexual abuse is linked to this as it is linked to homosexuality and lesbianism.
Those denying link between childhood sex abuse and adult gay/lesbian behaviors, transexuality are usually gay, lesbian or a sympathizer. But any behavior including sexual can be learned. Sex abuse in youth can cause people to behave in ways. It’s not controversial to talk of nightmares, suicides, bedwetting often a result of sex abuse in youth. Yet when 1 talks gay/lesbian behaviors and transexuality in adulthood because they learned this sexual behavior by being repeatedly molested, then gays with politically safe psychologists complain. The politically correct psychologists who deny this know it’s possible for a boy to turn out gay as a result of childhood sex abuse, yet deny what they know is true. Of course, not all who are sexually abused in youth become gay in adulthood-but the risk is higher. Many transexual gays and lesbians who commit suicide do so because they often were childhood sex abuse victims and have other copathologies such as antisocial conduct, drugs, etc. Homosexual groups will use the mantra societal attitudes but it’s more complicated. People who have suffered sex abuse (which many transexual gays and lesbians have) in youth often have problems in adulthood and this includes suicides.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
Fat cünt was FAAAAAAT! He didn’t consciously turn his sweaty fat back on any kind of sexuality. It’s called making a virtue out of a fucking necessity: NOBODY WANTED TO FUCK THIS HIPPO
abnerb
@Paco: people distrust mainstream psychologists or mental health ‘professionals’ on homosexuality is because-1. They arrogantly say they’re mental health professionals as though what they say is infallible. 2. They have pro-homosexual biases and are dishonest. Psychology since 1973 in the USA usually has a pro-homosexual bias and not trustworthy. If a psychologist says truth which offends homosexual groups, then it gets condemned by homosexual groups.
If you are going to condemn therapy for homosexuals and lesbians who want to change to heterosexuality then you may as well condemn therapy for drug/drinking problems because such therapy often fails and high relapses. Is it possible for a homosexual or lesbian to change sexual behavior and sexual orientation to heterosexuality? There are gays and lesbians who sincerely believe they changed to heterosexuality and without contrary proof only they know. Saying 1 does not know and that they will not conclude until they are convinced is Okay. The right thing to do is to hope they are right in their belief and that they did change to heterosexuality.
However, It is arrogant for psychologists or mental health ‘professionals’ to think they know and condemn by saying they did not change to heterosexuality. It would be rude for a psychologist to condemn an alcoholic who thinks he or she sincerely recovered, yet here people are condemned for saying they believes they recovered from homosexuality.
ChrisK
@abnerb:Yes. Yes gay pedophiles. You’re a broken clock. Go back to your insane rambling babbling freak.
ChrisK
Oh jeeze how did I ever know he was a Christian before getting half way through it. Funny how the ex-gays are always coming from various forms of abuse but thankfully they found BS I mean faith to get them through. It’s as predictable as knowing abnerb is going to copy and paste BS from the 1950s.
He BGB
It is so dangerous to say that you can pray the gay away. If it can can be done, the person wasn’t really gay but trying to find themselves and experimenting. You can pray till your knees turn bloody, but a real gay person is gay just like a person has blue eyes and prays for brown. Nothing will change. And to bring god into the picture is saying god made alot of mistakes. Alot.
ChrisK
@abnerb: Ha. You can write and write or copy and paste and I’ll never read any of it. Go ahead though.
ChrisK
@He BGB: You’re trying to apply logic into something that’s at opposite ends of it. I get what you’re saying though. Allot of hypocrisy and denial of reality. Of coarse that’s the very basis of faith.
Vortece
@abnerb: The reason heterosexuals don’t blame their sexuality on their childhood is they’ve never been made to feel there was anything so wrong with their sexuality that they needed to find an external source on which to blame it. You’ll notice well-adjusted gay people don’t blame our gayness on our childhoods, either. We think we’re perfect just the way we are, thank you very much. And we weren’t molested as children, yet here we are gay as we can be.
As for the ex-gay movement, we may not think the goal is worth the trouble (or even attainable!), but, aside from general curiosity and bewilderment, we couldn’t care less what they put themselves through in the quest for heterosexuality. Well, not until they start trying to use their “experience” to influence our laws, medical care, or psychiatric institutions. Once that starts, then we’re sure as sh*t going to expect you to defend your work, because we’ve seen it, and it isn’t impressive.
abnerb
@Vortece: I don’t care about gay/lesbian marriage & though information war has been lost, truth must still be said. With gay/lesbian conduct by adults, while I don’t believe in making it a crime by consenting adults, I do believe it’s best to find a cure for homosexual/lesbian conduct just as it’s best to find cure for tobacco use-also a legal product. If homosexual/lesbian conduct and tobacco use were to disappear eventually, then it’s fine with me and I wouldn’t lose sleep over it. I believe in abolishing sex change mutilations.
It’s possible homosexuality could be result of birth defect, but there are more than 1 reason why a conduct happens. Some people get emphysema because they have bad genes and some people get emphysema because they smoke tobacco. Not all smokers get emphysema, but if you smoke, you raise your risks of emphysema. Same thing with homosexuality and lesbianism-if it’s true there’s a birth defect, then some people do gay and lesbian activities due to this birth defect and some people do gay/lesbian conduct because of reacting to childhood sex abuse. Any conduct, including sexual conduct can be learned.
Juanjo
@abnerb: let us know when you have any verifiable scientific fact to support any of your drivel.
Juanjo
The fat boy who hates being gay is engaging in what psychologists call sublimation. He has substituted one behavior for another because whatever fucked up environment he lives in, being fat is less stigmatized than being gay is stigmatized.
abnerb
@Juanjo: I don’t believe Hitler tested Prussic pills on dog Blondi to see if they worked, because he killed himself by gun. History can be sensational & I think it was a mercy killing, because if Blondi would’ve ended up as food for Soviet soldier & Hitler knew this. Red Army in Germany was killing many people, committing rapes & Soviet soldiers esp. Soviet Mongolians were eating family pets including dogs. Many cases where Germans committed suicide including with their pets because they believed this was lesser evil to having a 10 year old girl raped & murdered by a Soviet soldier and their pets being eaten by Soviet soldiers.
Adolf Hitler knew that risk was too high for his dog Blondi to become food for a Soviet soldier, so his mistress Eva Braun and Blondi committed suicide by taking Prussic pill while he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. So it was a mercy killing and 1 could say the dog committed suicide to avoid being food for Soviet soldiers.
abnerb
@Juanjo: I have thought about this & don’t think any1 can rebut conclusion that childhood sex abuse victims of gay/lesbian pedophiles have more risk of turning out gay/lesbian by copying the conduct they learned because think you know that conduct incl. sexual conduct can be learned. Think you know it is possible for people who are victims of same sex molestation (such as victims of gay pedophile priests) to copy this sexual conduct and do gay conduct in adulthood incl. turn out to be gay pedophiles.
abnerb
@Juanjo: I am not White-my ancestry’s Indian, so I’m not German. I have read alot about Holocaust & while I agree with most, I don’t believe all I read. It’s not controversial to talk about Nazi Germans & their allies Axis Japan & Fascist Italy. But when you talk of how many of Stalin’s henchmen & henchwomen such as LM Kaganovitch, GG Yagoda, Lev Mekhlis were Jewish who committed Soviet Holocaust called Holodomor, then anti-Semitic accusations & Holocaust denial.
I believe the Wilhelm Johann Gustav Keitel Commissar Order executed Commies. Soviet partisans & Comissars were Commie thugs comparable to Kim Il Sung & Kim Jong Il. Also I am against Iraq War. I am not a Christian but a non-religious person whose ancestry’s Indian, thus cousins with Gypsies (Nazi’s victims). But I believe the Nazis did some good things, though they were tyrants & I agree with Commissar Order.biggest Holocaust called happened in former USSR committed by Commies some of who were Jewish such as LM Kaganovitch, GG Yagoda so 1 can say Holocaust was indirect retaliation for Holodomor. Holocaust should not have happened & I know what I say offends, but Jews were not always innocent. Not controversial to talk about Axis Japan, Nazi Germany & Fascist Italy, yet when 1
talks of Jewish complicity in Soviet Holocaust, then anti-Semitic complaints.
trickster3737
Sigh. I swear the world was better off when we were all polytheists. Never a religious war to be found. Nor were there so many insipid low brow people like abnerb who exist solely to make others suffer from their own grotesque inadequacies.
abnerb
@trickster3737: If you don’t hear or read some1 talking religion when speaking against homosexuality/lesbianism, then ask them if they base it on religion & don’t assume you know their faith. I am not religious because among other things, if there’s a God, then why do bad things happen in world. There are atheists who are against gay/lesbian conduct, so it is possible to not believe in God & be against gay/lesbian agenda, though religious people are more likely to be against gay/lesbian agenda while atheists are more likely to be apologists for gay/lesbian agenda but not always case so don’t assume you know their faith if they didn’t say anything religious, as there are atheists who are against gay/lesbian conduct.
unclemike
@abnerb: Nothing you have said invalidates my original statement.
trickster3737
Sigh. I swear the world was better off when we were all polytheists. Never a religious war to be found. Nor were there so many insipid low brow people like abnerb who exist solely to make others suffer from their own grotesque inadequacies.
highestbidder
@trickster3737: religious wars are a common theme throughout recorded history. Polytheistic, monotheistic, it doesn’t matter, humans don’t need much reason to kill. But I agree with your assessment of the hater’s motives.
Josh447
Poor guy denied his natural inborn sexual orientation due to extremely uneducated judgmental people, hence an eating disorder to help with the pain. He just needs some common sense people (unlike the classic asswipe ill bred uneducated hate statistician Michael Brown and abnerd) with which to counsel and he could do quite well balancing out his life. Get a bf, fall in love, have a life worth loving instead of a life just worth eating.
Josh447
We know it’s right as rain, yet you squirm in your dirty underwear to the point of writing unfounded garbage about a natural occurring part of YOUR/our human race. Hate yourself much? Come to the table with facts backwards Indian, or get back to your corner and pay your dues for inciting emotional violence. Men walk on solid ground, men wannabes live on gossip fear and suspicion. It’s obvious where your weak knees stand, barely.
ChrisK
@abnerb: Dude you take the cake when it comes to weird. Cut and paste…cut and paste. Yeah, you’re real good. LOL
Josh447
This conversation is over.
ChrisK
@abnerb: But takfdr y from the is that p589t viewing habe bare per all-over-the-map. brothers when4kr comes to the type of pe they consume.
Truth-is-Truthy
Apparently he’s unaware of the fact that a person needs love to live as well. Science has demonstrated that loneliness is just as much a factor in early death as obesity. Although sex is not as much of a need, romantic love definitely is needed for a happy and healthy life. I feel sorry for this man, I really do. He’s been lied to about homosexuality. Just because somebody believes that their interpretation is the only one that God accepts doesn’t make it so. People have killed in God’s name for centuries because they believed it was approved by God. This man needs to find gay Christians, and a Church which welcomes gay people both as congregants and servants.
NateOcean
I would guess the obesity problem pretty much solved his gay problem.
Truth-is-Truthy
@ChrisK: Don’t reply to him. He’s a troll. He’s spouting nonsense in order to get a rise out of people. It’s a psychological problem which he may not even be aware of. The best thing to do is to ignore him. I just wish Queerty had an option to either flag or report trolls. They seem to be increasing on this website in recent months. It’s never Christian trolls either, it’s only mean-spirited, bigoted, and uninformed trolls at that. Anyhow, ignore the likes of him and you’ll have less stress in your life.
abnerb
@Truth-is-Truthy: Think posters who call me ignorant, idiot know that sex abuse esp. repeated childhood sex abuse raises risk of a kid turning out gay/lesbian by copying conduct they learned from being ruined by gay and lesbian pedophiles, but they can’t rebut other than get offended. You can call me ignorant,idiot, etc., but there’s nothing any1 can say to change my mind on this. People who deny truth between sex abuse and later homosexuality/lesbianism are dishonest.
dwes09
@abnerb: It is one thing to be a stupid person, which you so obviously are, and try to alleviate your stupidity. It is quite another to come to a site where people know much more than you do and spout your ignorance as if there is something there for us to learn. You simply get laughed at. Is that what you want?
Rest assured that most of the people here are well acquainted with actual facts and statistics, science and public health. We all see that you are not. We also see that you are a heterosexual man who does not even attempt to hid their judgement and disgust. You don’t like us, and with your attitude you may be sure we don’t like you. Even as stupid as you are, one would think you might have the good sense to keep your hate and stupidity to yourself.
dwes09
@abnerb: “stealing and killing are also found in nature. Cannibalism is also found among animals so natural argument is poor.”
And your you evangelicals use the analogy of “natural law” all the time when it suits you. Please lean the difference between fake statistics that come from your kind, and the real information that comes from actual science. It is rather odd that your kind “lies for Jesus” and “hates for Jesus”, not to mention engaging in ritual cannibalism in the worship of a murdered rabbi who you laughingly claim is God (one of your three gods).
dwes09
@abnerb: “There are atheists who are against gay/lesbian conduct”.
Name a few. You evangelicals are incredible liars!
lcandela123
Christians are out of their fucking minds. “Instantaneous miraculous transformations”.
These shitheads will believe absolutely anything.
dwes09
@abnerb: “Those denying link between childhood sex abuse and adult gay/lesbian behaviors, transexuality are usually gay, lesbian or a sympathizer.”
Actually, they are basing their understanding on statistical evidence and clinical studies. You by contrast are simply assuming anything that bubbles up from your imagination or anything you see on youtube is true. Very sad for people to be that stupid.
dwes09
@abnerb: “People who deny truth between sex abuse and later homosexuality/lesbianism are dishonest.”
Actually we simply read scientific literature that is peer reviewed, contemporary and repeatable. Evangelicals like you (even those who like you lie and say they are not), simply refer to the same few outdated papers no longer taken seriously by the scientific community. Unlike religion, science constantly reevaluates its understanding based on new and better data. Those with an empirical outlook do not accept things as immutable and sacred like you do.
All attempts to explain homosexuality as the result of abuse or classically Freudian ideas of dysfunctional parenting have failed. Referring to them as you do simply displays your inability to understand science. Lying about your religious base simply points out the disingenuous nature of those with an extreme agenda.
dwes09
@abnerb: ” NAACP did not condemn gay activisit Dan K. Savage when Dan K. Savage made graphic comments against black US President Candidate Benjamin S. Carson.”
Ben Carson was no friend to progressive black people, although he benefited from affirmative action and the civil rights act he favored their repeal: Classic “i got mine, the hell with you” behavior. He is also, like you, a rather dull person intellectually. Savage made comments against Carson because the were accurate and relevant. We are reality based people here, you are not. Nobody will either listen to you or respond favorably; you will not change minds with your ignorance.
Brian
Stop confusing same-sex attraction with promiscuity. They are two different concepts. I found that people on both the Left and the Right confuse the two.
Same-sex attraction is a feeling. It’s innate. It is automatic. It is not something that can be switched off at will.
Promiscuity is the product of loose morals. It is not automatically occurring. It can be controlled. It can be switched off. It involves a decision-making process.
Neonegro
@abnerb: “Homosexual/lesbian conduct is bad for health like tobacco & needs to be treated like tobacco use by adults. If willing & knowing adults want to use tobacco & or do gay/lesbian conduct, then that’s their life, but it must be treated as harmful like tobacco is. I think that they must make it a crime to do sex changes. I’m a nonreligious person who sees something wrong with homosexual & lesbian conduct & I think that they must make it a crime to do sex changes. Even if orientation doesn’t change, it’s best for gays/lesbians to be celibate just as it’s best for a person with tobacco orientation not to smoke.”
lol..lol I just saw the above.
Even if it’s bad for my health, it is my health and my life and my body and I have every right to do with it as I please.
Unless you also want me to prevent you from using your body the way you see fit.
Your acceptance of what I do is not required. That is your own issue to deal with.
Neonegro
@Brian: There is nothing morally wrong with promiscuity.
It is a societal and cultural judgment.
abnerb
@dwes09: As 1 whose ancestry is Indian Hindu (I no longer follow any faith & am non-religious), while Hinduism is neutral on homosexuality, Indians who are against homosexuality/lesbianism are for reasons unrelated to faith. India’s laws against homosexuality which was there for many years through early 2000s were made during British colonization. Goa was a Portuguese colony from late 1400s until 1961 independence & thus laws against homosexuality in Goa. French & Dutch also had colonies in India, so laws against homosexuality. India has a large Muslim population & Islam forbids homosexuality. I am against homosexuality as people who know my posts have read for reasons unrelated to religion.
I’m a nonreligious person who sees something wrong with homosexual & lesbian conduct & I think that they must make it a crime to do sex changes.I don’t care about gay/lesbian marriage & though information war has been lost, truth must still be said. I have thought about this & don’t think any1 can rebut conclusion that childhood sex abuse victims of gay/lesbian pedophiles have more risk of turning out gay/lesbian by copying the conduct they learned because think you know that conduct incl. sexual conduct can be learned. Think you know it is possible for people who are victims of same sex molestation (such as victims of gay pedophile priests) to copy this sexual conduct and do gay conduct in adulthood incl. turn out to be gay pedophiles.
With gay/lesbian conduct by adults, while I don’t believe in making it a crime by consenting adults, I do believe it’s best to find a cure for homosexual/lesbian conduct just as it’s best to find cure for tobacco use-also a legal product. If homosexual/lesbian conduct and tobacco use were to disappear eventually, then it’s fine with me and I wouldn’t lose sleep over it. I believe in abolishing sex change mutilations.
abnerb
@dwes09: Think posters who call me ignorant, idiot know that sex abuse esp. repeated childhood sex abuse raises risk of a kid turning out gay/lesbian by copying conduct they learned from being ruined by gay and lesbian pedophiles, but they can’t rebut other than get offended. You can call me ignorant,idiot, etc., but there’s nothing any1 can say to change my mind on this. People who deny truth between sex abuse and later homosexuality/lesbianism are dishonest.
abnerb
@dwes09:
About me-I’m not religious, though I did go to Christian schools when as a boy (1970s)as we had immigrated to in 1972 & my parents believed Christian schools would give better education. Turns out 1 of the priests @ our school was a gay pedofile.
I don’t think people can rebut conclusion that if a kid is molested esp. a repeated victim of gay/lesbian pedophiles, risk is more they’ll copy sexual conduct they learned. 1 doesn’t need to be expert to know sex abuse (both childhood & adulthood) can damage people and cause some people to behave in ways they wouldn’t have had the sex abuse not happened. I also think you know it’s possible, as you’re not giving rebuttal. I know what politically safe psychologists say denying this possibility, but what they say is not credible & I think they deny what they know is possible. Psychologist or psychiatrist don’t know all the answers & can be dishonest by denying what they know is true.
Neonegro
@abnerb: You are of Indian origin?
Should you not spend your time helping your people rise up from the filth that is your sub-continent.
A place where poop is transported by hand thru the streets as they clean the rudimentary toilets.
Why all this concern for the health of gay men in the west when your people are living in a latrine.
dwes09
@Neonegro: “There is nothing morally wrong with promiscuity.
It is a societal and cultural judgment.”
I know I have disagreed with some of your other positions, but you are absolutely correct on this one. In most cases it is simply fun to have promiscuous encounters.
In case you didn’t see it not too long ago Brian stated that two men don’t engage in sexual acts, they “imitate sex”, as the only real sexual acts involve the possibility of procreation! That tells you how slippery his grip on reality is.
abnerb
@Neonegro: With gay/lesbian conduct by adults, while I don’t believe in making it a crime by consenting adults, I do believe it’s best to find a cure for homosexual/lesbian conduct just as it’s best to find cure for tobacco use-also a legal product. If homosexual/lesbian conduct and tobacco use were to disappear eventually, then it’s fine with me and I wouldn’t lose sleep over it. I believe in abolishing sex change mutilations.
dwes09
@abnerb: I don’t have to refute it, there simply is no statistics to support it. That is the way it works, nobody has to refute your imagination. It is by definition not reality based.
And clearly you were damaged by your “education” as you seem unable to think critically.
abnerb
@Neonegro: You’re right about India with it’s filth & poverty. India also has alot of smart people & the 2 nations with the most # of scientists are India and China. Many Indian computer programmers, engineers & physicists. I have not been to India since 2002 & as an Indian American (not to be confused with American Indians), I care more about what happens in the US than what happens in India.
abnerb
@dwes09: people distrust mainstream psychologists or mental health ‘professionals’ on homosexuality is because-1. They arrogantly say they’re mental health professionals as though what they say is infallible. 2. They have pro-homosexual biases and are dishonest. Psychology since 1973 in the USA usually has a pro-homosexual bias and not trustworthy. If a psychologist says truth which offends homosexual groups, then it gets condemned by homosexual groups.
dwes09
@abnerb: What sexual abuse is clearly shown to do is make it more difficult for people to form close relationships with ANYBODY or experience any sort od sexual intimacy easily . What sexual abuse has never been shown to do (note the word NEVER, this is statistic, not your sick imagination), is alter sexual orientation. I repeat, it has NEVER been shown statistically to alter orientation. That is leftover freudian crap that never found empirical support.
And as a straight homophobe (still, likely lying about his evangelical bent) why are you even here? To abuse gay men and thus get your rocks off??
dwes09
@abnerb: ” Psychology since 1973 in the USA usually has a pro-homosexual bias and not trustworthy.”
Are you that dull? Really?? Psychology changed it’s views on homosexuality specifically because there was NO EMPIRICAL SUPPORT FOR THE VIEWS THEY DISCARDED. Please make an attempt to lean what science is. It is quite different from religion, imagination or wishful thinking.
dwes09
@abnerb: From your posts it is quite obvious you do not understand the difference between what you believe (for whatever warped reasons), and what is shown by research. If if is because you lack the intelligence, you are dull, if it is because you simply don’t like thinking about what we do in our relationships, you are ignorant. I stand by that. You have an ossified mind in any case, and your presence here as an ignorant or stupid (or both) straight man is not appreciated. We do not need and do not want people like you preaching to us about your ignorance or stupidity, whichever it is. You know nothing about any of us and yet make the most foolish pronouncements about who we are. You would not recognize a fact if it kicked you in the balls! You think your distaste has some foundation in reality and yet it is simply the product of a disordered mind. You are the one who needs to avail themselves of a psychiatrist, not us.
ChrisK
@abnerb: Besides being an Indian why the fuck do you keep coming here? What 6 months now. You alternate between retard boy writing complete jibberish to the right wing wackjob. Even if you did have a point to make it’s lost since everyone can see you’ve got severe mental issues you’ve happily displayed.
I’ll bet you love the penis more then anything but you hate that part of yourself too so you end up here as a tormented troll.
ChrisK
@abnerb: Ha. If hannity was your other go-to site it looks like everyone was really happy to see you go.
ChrisK
@abnerb: Answer the question shithead. Why do you keep cumming here?
ChrisK
Abnerd LOVE DICK!!!
He just can’t accept it though. Sad.
dwes09
@abnerb: Nonetheless, I am nopt the one being dishonest here. You are stating your baseless opinions here as if they have some value. You are going out of your way to insult a group of people you think less human than you, based only on your imagination and ignorance. I could not care less who your father was or what he did. All I know is you are here to spread your lies and try to make others feel bad about themselves. You lack manners, intelligence, a decent upbringing and in fact anything that indicates a person of worth. Go the fuck away pissant! Were you to be face to face with me you may be sure i would have thrown a drink in your face long ago, you are that poor an excuse for a man, even despite your obvious psychological problems (I and certain your father and mother must have abused you emotionally to make you what you are, after all it only makes sense, right….emotional abuse makes you want to abuse others).
ChrisK
@dwes09: He’s just a troll. On the Hannity he goes by…
“In God We Trust Abner”. So much for not being religious. He’s also universally hated by the other members.
ChrisK
@abnerb: If you’re not going to answer the question you can just fuck off. TROLL!!
ChrisK
@abnerb: Nice job trying to bait dwes09 back into responding to you. LMAO
ChrisK
@abnerb: Damn. I don’t care and not going to read any of your babbling. Go suck a dick already.
Neonegro
@abnerb: The problem my man is that you are wasting your time.
You are talking to the wrong audience.
Nothing you say is going to make us stop having sex with the same gender.
A smarter person would make better use of their time and energy.
dwes09
@abnerb: ” so please be nice enough to support me.”
Why would anybody be nice to you? You come here spouting bullshit with no empirical evidence to support it, you are filled with hatred to others and consider all of us to be less human then you are!! You are, to put it mildly SCUM. The world will be a much better place when you are dead. I never thought I would say that about anybody, but you are clearly one of those people who would buy a gun and co mitt a mass shooting and think yourself justified in doing it…so tenuous is you connection to sanity, You do nothing but spread superstition, lies and hatred. And honestly nobody should feel safe around you. Please seek professional help before you entirely lose your mind.
dwes09
@abnerb: “calling Dennis & Judy L. Shepard on Nov. 3, 2014 & May 6, 2015 to tell ugly truths on who their son was. ”
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU CAN BE THAT MUCH OF A SCUMBAG AS TO HARASS THE PARENTS OF A MAN MURDERED BY FOLKS WHO THINK LIKE YOU DO!! IF THERE IS A GOD YOU WILL DIE A HORRIBLE AND PAINFUL DEATH AT THE HANDS OF AN AVENGING ANGEL. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE AS WORTHY AS DEATH AS YOU IS STILL ALIVE.
GOD FORGIVE ME, BUT I HOPE YOU SUFFER HORRIBLY FOR THE HATRED IN YOUR SOUL. YOU ARE NOT HUMAN.
dwes09
@ChrisK: ” He’s just a troll” Clearly he is just a troll and a rather stupid one, but we nonetheless should make him feel as unwelcome here as possible, and let him know that he superiors are not taken in by his stupidity. We cannot ignore him as he will then think he is not unwelcome here. People like him are worthy only of hatred and (for the charitable among us) pity. Honestly it should have been a font of hatred like him on that fence and not Matthew Shepard. Nobody would have missed him or mourned him.
dwes09
@ChrisK: ” Nice job trying to bait dwes09 back into responding to you. LMAO”
Actually I had to leave and make dinner for a party at friends’ house. Sadly this Indian fellow likely has no friends. If he wasn’t such a twit I might be moved by his obvious dysfunction and loneliness. I might have compassion for his mental illness. But he makes that awfully hard with his hatred of others, his antisemitism, his willful stupidity. It is hard to do anything but wish him a merciful end to the life he so obviously hates.
dwes09
@abnerb: “I comment here because almost all the commenters you have are those with pro-gay/lesbian views.”
You cannot possibly be so stupid that you did not notice this is a gay male news blog. Or can you?
Nobody has any reason to give you any respect as you have no empirical support for anything you say. And nobody here has any respect for you as you are clearly an idiot and a troll. So you come here because you have no life, because you have no friends, because you only are stimulated by the supposition that you are upsetting others.
You know, gay people expend a lot of energy trying to maintain our emotional strength in the face of scum like you. We get very used to dealing with folks like you, devoid of intelligence, devoid of ethics, pathological liars, no friends, no lives. But it is hard to have pity on someone like you. You bring your pain and loneliness on yourself. You deserve it because you have chosen to revel in your sickness and not seek help.
abnerb
@dwes09: Natrona County Juvenile Court gave Methew Wayne Shepard counseling for molesting 2 boys when he was 15 years old, but if the Wyoming legal system had given Methew Wayne Shepard years in prison rather than counseling by Natrona County Juvenile Court for molesting 8 year old boys when he was 15 years old, then Methew Wayne Shepard would have avoided being murdered in 1998. Getting murdered in 1998 does not change the truth that Methew Wayne Shepard was a gay pedophile.
Calling them twice to tell the truth is not harassment. Harassment is repeatedly contacting a person after they have asked you to stop contacting them. Since this happened twice, it was not harassment, so it’s legal. Shepards are famous. If the Shepard’s don’t want people calling them to tell ugly truths of Methew W. Shepard being a drug junky and a child molester, then they should get an unlisted # because that is what comes with being famous. I did the right thing because they are the 1s who get rich off of his murder, not me. I just call to tell them the truth & I earn nothing.
abnerb
@dwes09: I don’t know why the murder happened & I don’t know if Methew W. Shepard was a drug dealer which is why I say possible drug dealer-Methew W. Shepard could also have been a courier or lookout. Methew W. Shepard was a child molester because he had been a victim of homosexual child molestation & repeated the molestation as a 15 year old boy when he molested 8 year old boys. Stephen Jimenez possibly read Methew W. Shepard’s subpoenaed psychological/medical records, where Methew W. Shepard talks about why he molested the 8 year old boys by copying the conduct he learned from being molested as a boy. I wouldn’t be shocked if Methew W. Shepard molested more children than the 2 which were reported.
after Methew W. Shepard’s murder, most people who knew ugly facts about him were shy as they don’t want to sound rude by talking poorly of dead-families of the 8 year old boys who Methew W. Shepard molested were shy because they likely guessed the same thing. In few cases where people tried to tell ugly facts about Methew W. Shepard, the journalists ignored them or they were condemned for talking bad about the dead. Witnesses who spoke to Stephen Jimenez likely thought that because Stephen Jimenez is a gay journalist, that they can tell ugly facts about Methew W. Shepard w/o being condemned.
Judy & Dennis W. Shepard push ‘queero worship’ of Methew W. Shepard for years. They have gone to schools to speak being invited by teachers & kids have posed for pictures with Dennis & Judy Shepard. Many of the pro-gay teachers won’t tolerate students giving facts which offend them & if a student were to say to Dennis & Judy Shepard that Methew W. Shepard’s a child molester, drug junky & possible drug dealer, they could get punished by teacher.
The teachers support free speech right for students to pose for pictures with Dennis & Judy Shepard-the parents of a dead child molester, drug junky & possible drug dealer but they oppose free speech right for students to say ugly facts. There have been cases over students getting punished by teachers for giving views against homosexuality which offended the pro-gay teachers.
Dennis & Judy Shepard hope that people who agree with them reinforce them while those who differ be shy or if they speak censor them. If Dennis & Judy Shepard are invited to speak @ a school, then kids should have a right to tell ugly facts about Methew W. Shepard though Dennis & Judy hate it.
Dennis & Judy L. Shepard have been arrogantly dishonest about who Methew W. Shepard was by trying to censor Stephen Jimenez. I have been humble not haughty, in that I don’t believe in censoring Laramie Project & I don’t believe in censoring Dennis & Judy L. Shepard’s free speech right. I will use my free speech right to tell ugly facts about Methew W. Shepard which usu. gets omitted.
Metthew Wayne Shepard (1976-1998) was not the innocent as he has been portrayed by Laramie Project or films like Shepard is a Friend of Mine. Metthew Wayne Shepard was a junky who assoc. with drug dealers in both Colorado & Wyoming, was possibly a drug dealer himself (Methew Wayne Shepard could also possibly have been a drug courier or a lookout) & when he was 15 years old, he was arrested for molesting 2 boys & he got counseling by Natrona County Juvenile Court for molesting 2 boys.
abnerb
@dwes09: You sound like a Communist who sees nothing wrong with Commie Holocaust and who sees no wrong with North Korea’s Commie dictators Kim il Sung, King Jong Il and Kim Jong Un. Wouldn’t be surprised if you support Cuba’s dictator Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz and Venezuela’s dictator Nicolas Maduro Moros who’s worse than late Hugo Rafael Chavez Frias.
Julius & Ethel Rosenberg gave atomic or nuclear weapons secrets to Commie USSR & thus we had cold war with former USSR. My guess is that you are apologists for Communists Julius & Ethel Rosenberg. Other things, it’s not controversial to say that the last time PM Ariel Sharon made love was in 1971 or that Golda Meir was womenopausal (menopausal) when she was PM. It’s also not controversial to say that Menachem Begin was impotent. Yet the Holocaust is a topic where if you say Holocaust isn’t much different from other war atrocities, then controversy.
I don’t want any ethnic group exterminated. There are many talented Jewish people such as Stephen A. Spielberg, those who created Marvel & DC Comics, 3 stooges, Twilight Zone & as posters know I have watched all episodes of Bewitched, I dream of Jeannie, Honeymooners, Twilight Zone & Incredible Hulk-those shows often had Jewish producers & sometimes Jewish actors such as actor who played Abner & Gladys Kravitz on Bewitched, JE Gleason of Honeymooners & Rodman Edward Serling of Twilight Zone. When I was a boy in 1970s & early 1980s, I liked watching Laverne & Shirley along with Happy Days, Jewish & Jewess actors.
I also as posters know listen to music by Ariana Grande, Meghan Elizabeth Trainor, Lady Gaga, Justin Drew Bieber etc. who often have Jewish music executives. I don’t want Jews exterminated, because then we lose so many talented people. But I don’t think I’m a Nazi because I don’t think Holocaust is much different from other war atrocities & I don’t think I’m a Nazi because I support the Commissar Order. Most people who were killed by the Nazis were not Jewish. I also didn’t say that most Soviet henchmen & henchwomen were Jewish as most of the Soviet henchmen & henchwomen were non-Jewish Slavs & most people who the Nazis killed were Slavs.
abnerb
@dwes09: Call him METHEW Wayne Shepard as he was a drug junky. Psychologists and psychiatrists deal with other people’s problems and fact that psychologists and psychiatrists often have problems of their own makes their findings useless because if they can not solve their own problems, then when they research this, they are often wrong. Many gays and lesbians who commit suicide do so because they often were childhood sex abuse victims and many have other copathologies such as antisocial conduct, drugs, etc. Gay/lesbian groups say suicide rates are high because of societal attitudes but that is not credible. People who have suffered sex abuse esp. childhood sex abuse have higher suicide rates. Facts are that homosexual/lesbian conduct is bad for health though pro-gay ideologues such as AMA and APA say otherwise and I think AMA and APA are dishonest on the homosexual topic.
abnerb
@dwes09: Since you made it into ad hominems, I wouldn’t be surprised if you molest children. I don’t think Methew Wayne Shepard should have been murdered, but I’m not going to martyr a pedophile which he was. Natrona County Juvenile Court gave Methew Wayne Shepard counseling for molesting 2 boys when he was 15 years old, but if the Wyoming legal system had given Methew Wayne Shepard years in prison rather than counseling by Natrona County Juvenile Court for molesting 8 year old boys when he was 15 years old, then Methew Wayne Shepard would have avoided being murdered in 1998. Getting murdered in 1998 does not change the truth that Methew Wayne Shepard was a gay pedophile.
abnerb
@Neonegro: You will do what you’ll do and if you want to have gay activities with other knowing and willing adults, then it’s your life. With gay/lesbian conduct by adults, while I don’t believe in making it a crime by consenting adults, I do believe it’s best to find a cure for homosexual/lesbian conduct just as it’s best to find cure for tobacco use-also a legal product. If homosexual/lesbian conduct and tobacco use were to disappear eventually, then it’s fine with me and I wouldn’t lose sleep over it. I believe in abolishing sex change mutilations.
abnerb
Posters have been offended by me saying that it wouldn’t surprise me if 1 or more of the Orlando victims were pedophiles & or drug dealers. They’re offended because I think they know it’s possible but hate that I raise this because people were murdered & wounded in this shooting. I don’t omit ugly facts because something bad as getting murdered happened. Though posters know this, here’s why it wouldn’t be surprising if it turns out if 1 or more of the victims were gay pedophiles & or drug dealers. The life of gays & lesbians (though not always) often have bad childhood such as fact that many gays & lesbians were victims of gay/lesbian pedophiles as kids.
1. People who are victims of same sex pedophilia are more likely to turn out gay/lesbian in adulthood, copying the sexual behavior they learned. In worse cases, victims of gay/lesbian pedophiles turn out to be gay/lesbian pedophiles in adulthood. This is esp. true for gay men & wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out 1 or more of the gay men killed in Orlando had been as a boy molested by gay pedophiles such as gay Catholic priests which caused them to repeat sexual conduct they learned from their abuse & possibly even turn out to be gay pedophiles.
2. People who are victims of gay/lesbian pedophiles along with being more likely to turn out gay/lesbian are also more likely to have problems such as depression, drug junkyism & drunkardism. They’re more likely to use drugs such as Meth, Cocaine & Extasy. In some cases, junkies can sell drugs along with using them or be a drug courier or lookout for drug dealers for money. In pubs, drugs are often sold & pubs are known to get drunkards, junkies & drug dealers.
I know this offends people with posters telling me how I’m trashing people who aren’t here to defend themselves. But ugly facts don’t change because some1 is murdered & it wouldn’t surprise me if 1 or more of the victims were pedophiles & or drug junkies + drug dealers because again, many gays & lesbians were victims of gay/lesbian pedophiles which ruined their sexuality & people who are victimized like this are more likely to turn out gay/lesbian in adulthood incl. turn out to be gay/lesbian pedophiles & more likely to be drug junkies incl. in some cases, sell drugs. Think the offended posters know this but hate that I’m not shy & raise this.
abnerb
JUDY L. SHEPARD AND HER OTHER SON LOGAN P. SHEPARD ARE BOTH FAT & THEY GOT FAT GETTING RICH FROM EXPLOITING THEIR SON AND BROTHER FOR MONEY. Judy L. Shepard got fat from eating in fancy Mexican restaurants, Chinese restaurants, Japanese restaurants, French restaurants, Russian restaurants, etc., so Judy L. Shepard being fat proves she gets rich exploiting her son.
Creamsicle
@abnerb: You have a problem with people referring to themselves as mental health professionals? What else would you ask people who spent years of study and work in a specialized field to call themselves? Do you also think it’s arrogant when an NFL player refers to themselves as a professional athlete? Or when an aerospace engineer calls themselves a professional Rocket Scientist? The “professional” is meant to indicate that they have fulfilled a minimum education and hands on work requirement to work in a field (i.e.: a profession) That way they can scrutinize whether or not a method of therapy is legitimate.
The alternative is a bunch of Snake Oil salesmen peddling “patented” medicines to cure everything from obesity to “secret cancer therapies that doctors don’t want you to know about.” And when you open the door to charlatans like that people die.
abnerb
@Creamsicle: I don’t have a problem with people calling themselves professionals, only the reason I wrote ‘professionals’ is to show their arrogant dishonesty because being a professional on something, doesn’t mean they know all answers & professionals can be arrogantly dishonest.
If a boy is repeatedly homosexually raped in his youth, the likelihood is more that he’ll do homosexual behaviors in adulthood because the sex abuse can damage mind and cause people to act in ways they normally wouldn’t. It’s like if a kid lives in a high crime neighborhood & sees muggings, the likelihood is more that he’ll be a mugger in his adulthood because of what he learned in his youth.
No, not all boys who are homosexually raped in youth become homosexual in adulthood & yes, there are many gays who weren’t homosexually raped in their youths. But homosexual rapes in youth incr. risk of a boy turning out homosexual.
1EqualityUSA
Tighten your chin strap.
Neonegro
@abnerb: And I would be fine with certain ethnic groups,nations and religions disappearing but I don’t let that fact consume me.