Oh Susan, what are you doing? For months the Bernie Sanders campaign has been using the actress as a surrogate (basically someone hired to repeat talking points) and she seems to have gone a little off-book on MSNBC. When asked if she would vote for Hillary, if Hillary gets the nomination, Sarandon hesitated.
“I don’t know, I’m going to see what happens,” she says.
“I cannot believe –” said host Chris Hayes.
“People believe Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately,” Sarandon said.
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“The Leninist model?” asked Chris.
“Yeah,” she replied.
Hillary’s people were a little aghast at that. “I thought that those comments were peculiar… not every surrogate that goes out and speaks on behalf of the campaign actually expresses the views of the candidate,” said one campaign rep.
And the comments were particularly troubling to Tony Kushner, the Angels in America playwright, who came on the same show to gently push back. (Is he a hired Hillary surrogate? MSNBC didn’t identify him as such but he sure was behaving like one.)
Kushner likes Hillary. A lot. “I think she would make an extraordinary candidate,” he said. “Like Secretary Clinton I think that as you move through time you consider views that you had in the past and perhaps reconsider them and amend them. … I believe in electoral democracy as a way of affecting progress and even radical change.”
In other words, progressives, stop acting like it’s Bernie or nothing. If he fails to get the nomination, yeah, you’ll be disappointed, but you can still participated in the process for getting Hillary into office.
“I think she’s absolutely the best shot to win. … I don’t understand why people people with political views that I share aren’t more excited about her. The I couldn’t possibly vote for Hillary Clinton thing from someone like Susan Sarandon who I respect enormously baffles me,” he said.
And when asked if he would vote for Bernie, if Bernie gets the nomination: “Of course! I don’t know what’s going to be nominated or who’s going to be nominated on the other side of things, but it’s terrifying.”
onthemark
“I don’t vote with my vagina.” – Susan Sarandon
Looks like Susan needs to do some vagina exercises. Get that vagina flexible enough to reach up and pull that lever for Hillary!
joeyty
Who cares what an actress thinks ? Did you ever watch Celebrity Jeopardy when they have actors and actresses play ? It confirms what Truman Capote said about most of them being stupid.
robho3
I do not like the clinton’s and would rather see someone else win the nomination but I would never never never vote for a cra cra like trump or Cruz. And I know few democrats that would.
Billy Butler
I’m baffled that she opposed gay marriage up until a couple years ago. That’s queer.
Kangol
She’s a millionaire and won’t be harmed if Trump wins (though he said today he’d “punish” women who had abortions, so maybe some wealthy woman she knows might face that sanction), and can be blithe and dispassionate about his potential victory. Like so many privileged and entitled people, she apparently only cares about things if they directly affect her.
Alistair Wiseman
Perhaps the only political opinion I share in agreement with Ms. Sarandon.
Masc Pride
Apparently a lot of democrats may vote for Trump, which truly speaks to just how unlikable Hillary is to many. She’s corrupt, and her and Wasserman totally rigged this whole thing. I think lots of dems just won’t vote if she is the nominee. I certainly won’t.
GC1985
@Masc Pride: Errrrr wrong. The mass majority of democrats support Trump according to various opinion data. She gets around 87-95% of support from her party. And nearly one third of republicans are strongly against Trump. Bad numbers for him.
You ought to pay a bit more attention. Donald is the one with sinking numbers and high negative ratings.
Oh and after his comments on abortion and women, no one should be so stupid to support him. Certainly no women.
Some are starting to think Donald is a trojan horse to the Republican party. Donald was friends with the Clinton’s for years… Don’t think that suddenly has changed.
GC1985
@GC1985: Sorry the mass majority support Clinton. Quite a faux pas on my part there lol.
Trump is destroying the republican party but also his own chances. I am pleased he is making such hateful comments about women.
GC1985
@Alistair Wiseman: Of course. You are nothing more than Trump parrot.
Have fun supporting the trojan horse.
It will be fun seeing Hillary as President and your hysterical reaction.
GC1985
Oh and if Trump is so “popular” according to some of the yapping gay republicans on here… explain this:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
Trump actually has become more unpopular in the last month. Most people are already making up their minds about him.
He’s getting trounced and will get trounced in November.
Masc Pride
It wouldn’t surprise me if Trump is part of Hillary’s master plan to totally kill democracy and strong-arm her way into the White House. I bet Trump’s even shocked by just how much he’s been able to get away with in this circus. With all that I’ve seen and read about all the people that went missing after they got in the Clintons’ way, I hope Bernie stays safe. The Clintons don’t mind a little blood on their hands.
Masc Pride
LOL @ anyone who seriously thinks super liberal Susan Sarandon would ever vote for Donald Trump. She was obviously just making a point.
GC1985
@Masc Pride: Nobody is destroying democracy. Get over yourself please. Some people willingly back Trump out of ignorance. Oh and your conspiracies are old and ridiculous. Disappeared? What are you smoking?
inbama
Sarandon supported Nader which helped put Bush in office.
William Meyer
I’m baffled by how stupid he is.
JessPH
Shame on Susan Sarandon.
Please vanish in oblivion, c*nt.
notevenwrong
She didn’t say she would vote for Trump. Her remarks are being grossly misrepresented.
I can see how Kushner, a privileged white man, wouldn’t care for Bernie and prefer the status quo as represented by Hillary.
Masc Pride
@notevenwrong: “Grossly misrepresented” is an understatement. I was watching CNN the other day, and Erin Burnett basically described Sarandon as a “Trump supporter”. Then again, CNN grossly misinterprets a lot these days.
mdbuck67
I wouldn’t vote for any Clinton, even if you held a gun to my head. If it’s between the crazy, loud mouthed Trump and the hopelessly incompetent, pathologically lying Hillary, I’m voting third party.
GC1985
@mdbuck67: Genius. Then you might as well vote for Ted Cruz. Or whatever Republican wins the nomination. So tell me… What is Hillary lying about? Politifact has gathered most of her major statements and has shown that she is telling the truth even more than Bernie Sanders. Tell us some of these lies. I would like to hear them. And what third party? The only real plausible one would have been Bloomberg and he said he won’t run if Hillary wins the nomination.
Trump has totally collapsed himself and he now trails by 10% in Wisconsin. I think he will still win the nomination, but he went way too far this time and attacked the biggest voting bloc in the country. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Hillary increase her 11-12% lead (realclearpolitics average) over Trump to 15-20%.
Hillary is set for the White House. Like it or not. Cruz won’t win against her either.
GC1985
@inbama: Bingo. At this point in time nobody should give a crap what she thinks. Luckily there is no Nader this time and Bloomberg won’t run since Hillary will get the nomination (sorry the Bern is just about out of caucuses and favorable States).
Wilberforce
Actors are stupid and totally corrupt. You have to be to make it in Hollywood. But I also remember how Sarandon and her ‘husband’ loudly supported Nader, which helped to put Bush in office. She’s never apologized for that and probably doesn’t even understand what an offence it is. So I don’t listen to her dingbat voice on anything.
Ronbo
Isn’t Hillary the one who praised Nancy Reagan for her hard work for AIDS?
Masc Pride
@mdbuck67: I think Kasich would be the delegates’ choice in the event of a contested convention. I wouldn’t mind voting for him if it’s Kasich vs Clinton.
@Ronbo: Bingo! And right after her HRC endorsement. Guess that’s why she knew she didn’t have to sweat it too much.
GC1985
@Ronbo: She admitted she made a mistake in that statement rather quickly. She admitted she erred. But somebody like you will continue to support Trump no matter how many wrong statements he makes… and not once has he ever admitted he was totally wrong.
You gay republicans are a riot. You criticize Hillary for every little thing, but when your leading candidates makes yet another stupid moronic remark you’re eerily quiet.
@Masc Pride: Kasich isn’t going to win the nomination. It’ll either be Cruz or Trump at this point.
GC1985
People who criticize Hillary are people throwing stones from a glass house. They are the same people who support the sinking ship known as Donald Trump because they somehow view him as a moderate. What a pile of stinking s**t.
GC1985
@Masc Pride: By the way if you had any clue of what’s going on, any vote for ANY republican candidate means you’re endorsing the entire package. Kasich is more of a social conservative than you think. Kasich isn’t a moderate and isn’t even liked in his state much like how Bobby Jindal isn’t liked in Louisiana.
GC1985
http://theweek.com/speedreads/615901/election-experts-are-predicting-hillary-clinton-landslide-over-donald-trump – SHOCKER! Nate Silver is projecting Hillary will get 374 electoral votes to Trump’s 164. And that’s unlikely to change.
Hillary landslide it is. Trump has successfully fired up democrats against him.
notevenwrong
@Wilberforce, you are wrong there. Nader supporters didn’t give the election to Bush. The Supreme Court gave the election to Bush. And Gore is the one who should be blamed for losing people on the left to Nader – Gore could have won Nader supporters over by caring about the Left, but he didn’t.
I vote for the Greens. I would vote for the Dems – it would be easy for the emocrats to win us over but they only care about catering to the center-Right, leaving those of us on the Left without any other options.
GC1985
@notevenwrong: I am not buying that. If Green supporters went to Gore, he would have had a bigger margin and we wouldn’t have had Bush.