Caitlyn Jenner has retweeted a transphobic tweet that attacks two trans athletes.
The original tweet came from Brad Parscale, former Donald Trump campaign manager in 2020. It shared a story about an athlete—who is in the process of transitioning from female to male—beating a trans woman in a swimming race.
The athletes in question are trans woman Lia Thomas of Penn University, who has made headlines in recent weeks for winning several women’s races, and Izzi Henig of Yale. Henig is in the process of transitioning from female to male. Although he has had top surgery, he has not started taking testosterone yet. As such, Henig can continue to compete in the women’s races.
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During this particular Ivy League meet at Penn, Thomas won the 200-meter and 500-meter race. However, she placed sixth in the 100m freestyle, being beaten by five other competitors, including Henig.
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Henig also beat Thomas in the 400m freestyle.
Parscale’s stated in his tweet, “Let’s just be honest. This is an unqualified man losing to another unqualified man. Biological boys have no business in female sports.”
Jenner retweeted Parscale’s tweet.
Jenner famously made her name in the 1970s as an Olympic athlete. She revealed she is transgender in 2015. She has continued with some sporting activities since that time. This includes competing in a women’s golf tournament in 2016.
One would think that she might have some sympathy for other trans athletes. However, in her bid to become Governor of California last year, Jenner revealed views on trans school athletes in line with many in the GOP.
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Asked about the issue by TMZ last May, Jenner said, “This is a question of fairness, that’s why I oppose biological boys who are trans competing in girls’ sports in school.
“It just isn’t fair and we have to protect girls’ sports in our schools.”
Jenner later shared the TMZ article with her followers, reiterating her viewpoint.
I didn’t expect to get asked this on my Saturday morning coffee run, but I’m clear about where I stand. It’s an issue of fairness and we need to protect girls’ sports in our schools.https://t.co/YODLDQ3csP
— Caitlyn Jenner (@Caitlyn_Jenner) May 1, 2021
She was later asked again on Fox about her position, and said, if elected, she would set up a commission to look at the issue of who should and shouldn’t be competing in what races.
“What I would do as governor, I would put together a commission. And trans women, who are truly trans, who at a very young age, you know, started proper medical treatment, they’ve grown up as girls, of course, they should be able to compete in girls’ sports.”
Jenner’s campaign to become Governor of California hit the skids when the state voted to keep Governor Gavin Newsom in place in a recall election. Jenner received 1.1% of the vote.
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Bosch
Real grownups can have a conversation about athlete categorization without being transphobic, Caitlyn. You’re not going to bridge the gap between trans people and transphobes by doing the “look, I can be transphobic too” schtick.
Notice how they gladly misgender the transwoman but not the transman? That just makes it clear how closely misogyny and transphobia are connected.
cheks
I wish these idiots would just forget trans people exist, like they apparently already have regarding trans men.
cliche guevara
For the trolls that are about to start spouting nonsense about “biological advantages” please refer to the International Olympics Committees guidelines for trans athletes. These were derived by medical professionals….. you know, people actually qualified to weigh in on the subject otherwise known as “not you”.
frapachino
Their decision was political and you know it. Stop calling people names because they have the confidence to say the truth.
ZzBomb
@frapachino: What exactly was political in the Olympic committees decision here? Be specific! B/c if you can’t name what exactly was politicized in it, then really what YOU mean is that it simply differs from your politics and you have no further rational rebuttal to add.
Cam
@frapachino
The right wing troll must be desperate if it’s bringing out this burned out old screename again. lol
DuMaurier
I’m actually not going to weigh in on the “issue” at all, because it’s a complex one and I honestly am not sure how I feel about it. But while I respect “medical professionals” immensely, I don’t think I or anyone has to robotically genuflect to anyone else’s judgment; I think I’m capable of looking at facts and forming my own opinions.
cliche guevara
@GreekKeys
I mean you are free to ignore people who actually understand human biology and specifically human biology as it relates to sports and just look at whatever “facts” you want to. Nicki Minaj did the same thing with Covid vaccines and came up with exploding testicles.
Cam
Jenner attacks other trans athletes while at the same time plays golf from the women’s tee. Is it all Republicans who are lying hypocritical bigots or just 99% of them?
ZzBomb
If the entire Jenner and Kartrashian clan was in a terrible plane crash, I for one would not be sad.
When will media stop paying these awful people any attention?
dwick
it depends on whether or not one of them was piloting the plane or it was someone else-someone else I’d be sad
them-not so much
cuteguy
Why are we having this conversation at all?. Don’t women want equal rights and want to be treated as EQUALS.? All the feminists are completely quiet on this subject and they only cherry pick what they want to fight for. As far as that joke Caitlyn is concerned, I just wish she would go away. We are all better off if we never heard from her again
edwardnvirginia
Obviously, if trans-women are honest about things
THEY WILL DEMAND THAT when they visit other countries with different laws about men and women they will be treated as the ‘women’ they say they are:
For example, like these actual laws in actual countries:
they will lose rights to inherit because women can’t inherit, only men can inherit
they can be adducted and raped but no charges will be brought against the rapist if the rapist marries her
after being abducted and raped, but married, they lose the right to divorce from the marriage so that they are forever victimized by their abductor/rapist
they will be unable to have any job that their husband, or father, does not agree that they can seek
they will be required to stay indoors unless the male head of the house allows them to go outdoors, same with travel, speaking to anyone, reading something, etc – no can do unless the male says so
they will be required to wear only what the government says that they can wear, only read what the government says that they can read, etc
etc
etc
etc
So, when will all these champion (trans)women athletes being going to the many countries with these customs and laws and living under those customs and laws?
Otherwise, hypocrite much?!
Dr Sarah
@edwardnvirginia: Am I a hypocrite because I’m a woman who also wouldn’t move to a country with sexist laws like that, or is it possibly just that *no-one*, cis or trans, is going to line up to volunteer to live under laws like that?
Mr. Stadnick
If it isn’t about her specifically, don’t ask her. She has either no opinion or a unthought out one ,or will say something really idiotic. Let her rot in her own bile.
Cam
This post is just as boring as it was under the two other screenames you posted it under.
London_resistance
And let’s never ever ever try and answer the valid points raised about the problems of trans woo-woo and the harms it causes, oh no! Let’s just refuse to debate it, cos we have the purity excuse that ‘trans rights are human rights’ when no-one has ever said blokes and women cannot dress as they want!
It’s the reality that men and women cannot change sex, no matter how hard you may wish to!
cliche guevara
Serious question, how many accounts do you have on here?
GlobeTrotter
I recently saw a lecture given by a sports scientists on the differences between male and female swimmers that REALLY opened my eyes to the problem of trans women athletes like Lia Thomas competing against biological women.
Apparently women swim very differently from men on account of their biological differences. While men have much larger lungs, slender hips and much larger upper body strength that give them significant advantages in the water, women are slowed down in the water by their breasts, their much wider hips and their higher body fat. Your typical female has about 24% body fat, which completely changes their buoyancy in the water compared to men who have much lower body fat ratio. All of these biological differences mean that it’s IMPOSSIBLE for women to swim as fast as men. Furthermore, on account of their different biology, women are trained to use different swimming techniques than men. The two sexes are therefore completely incompatible together in the water, as far as technique and physical abilities go.
A biological man who has undergone puberty and then transitions to female presents a slew of problems when competing with biological women. First of all, even after suppressing his testosterone for a full year, he will STILL have 50% higher lung capacity than your average biological female, a disproportionately larger upper body with much broader shoulders, a slender hip in addition to a significant height and size advantages over your average biological female. All the hormone-suppressing drugs in the world will NOT change his body size once he’s undergone puberty! Furthermore he’s competing against biological women that have higher body fat, fully developed breasts and much wider hips. Biological females simply have NO CHANCE at a fair competition with their physical disadvantages vis-à-vis a biological male.
The professor went on to list all the records broken by Lia Thomas, in one race she finished 7 SECONDS ahead of the second place winner – to put that in perspective, you have to consider that in competitive swimming there’s usually only a 1 or 2 second difference between the first place and second place winner. A 7 second difference is unheard of! Look at it another way, it took DECADES for female competitive swimmers to shave off 1 second off the world record. Lia Thomas, who was a third rate swimmer as a man, instantly shaved off 7 SECONDS simply by switching genders and competing against biological women. She achieved in one year what it would take biological women several hundred years to accomplish.
Now let that sink in for a minute, and you’ll quickly realize how unfair it is to allow biological men to compete against biological women in female sports…
cliche guevara
Tell me you don’t know what the current IOC guidance is what ought telling me you don’t know what the current IOC guidance is.
cliche guevara
Also, saying this:
“ All of these biological differences mean that it’s IMPOSSIBLE for women to swim as fast as men. ”
Putting aside trans athletes entirely. Really? You think it’s impossible for a woman to swim as fast as a man? I raced triathlon for over a decade. I can assure you that there are women that swim faster than men. I sure as hell couldn’t keep up with the professional woman. But let’s look at something more objective. In the 50 freestyle the men’s and women’s records are separated by less than 4 seconds. You seriously think Emma McKeon can’t out swim men? She does it regularly.
In your zeal to trash trans women you have managed to completely dismiss female athletes altogether. But it was never about protecting woman’s sports was it. Once again the misogyny the misogyny of transphobia takes center stage.
Jaquelope
They said some of the same things about men and women tennis players when Billie Jean King played against Bobby Riggs, and we all know how that turned out. It always seems to be the same when a man and woman competes against each other, and it always seems like so many miss the mark. It is very wrong to say that *all* men or women have this or that feature, when the range in body types and fat percentage is so extremely varied, no matter which gender/sex they are.
GlobeTrotter
@cliche guevara: “I can assure you that there are women that swim faster than men. I sure as hell couldn’t keep up with the professional woman.” – I’m obviously not referring to average men and women here, but PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED ATHLETES! According to this sports scientists (I myself know nothing about sports!), it’s almost impossible for a professionally trained female swimmer to outswim a professionally trained male swimmer on account of their biological differences. That’s why they’re segregated into men’s and women’s swimming teams.
@Jaquelope: “They said some of the same things about men and women tennis players when Billie Jean King played against Bobby Riggs, and we all know how that turned out.” – I don’t know anything about tennis or the different advantage/advantages of male and female players on the tennis court, nor was that the purpose of my post. My post specifically addressed the biological differences between male and female swimmers in the water as explained by a qualified sports scientist.
cliche guevara
“I myself know nothing about sports!”
I got that from your original post, but yet you still see yourself qualified to comment on the subject because you…… watched a video.
“I’m obviously not referring to average men and women here, but PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED ATHLETES! ”
I’t wasn’t obvious, it was an unqualified statement. Further, my example included a female pro.
“it’s almost impossible for a professionally trained female swimmer to out swim a professionally trained male swimmer on account of their biological differences.”
I gave you an example of a woman who does this regularly and she isn’t some sort of anomaly. Also, Schuyler Bailar, a trans man, was a top NCAA swimmer for Harvard. One of the fastest on his team in the to 15% in the NCAA. According you this is impossible because Bailer was born with a vagina. But you watched a video! You didn’t bother to look at actual results from the sport… you watched a video and became an expert!
As for the video, either you didn’t didn’t understand what you saw or the person talking doesn’t understand the biomechanics of swimming. Again, completely ignoring trans atheists all together, most of that is just wrong and important biological functions that predict success in endurance sport (VO2 max, lactic acid threshold) were missing.
And let’s be honest, you are trying to hide your bigotry behind “protecting women’s sports”. There are 30 trans athletes across US colleges and the US olympic team. 24 of them are trans women. That is the big threat? It isn’t that women’s sports get less funding, it isn’t that women do not get access to the same level of training facilities that men have, it isn’t that professional women get paid less, it isn’t that they don’t have access to the same level of coaching. Nope, none of those things make a difference, it’s that there are 24 trans women who compete. That is where the lack of fairness happens.
LumpyPillows
@Jaquelope Bobby Riggs was 55 years old and Billie Jean was 29 and at the top of her brilliant career and it was a battle for her to win. Billie Jean beat Bobby by being smart enough to wear him down and take advantage of the age difference. Bobby previously beat the No. 1 woman in the world, Margaret Court. The battle of the sexes is not a good example.
Another bad tennis example is Renee Richards, who was the first trans woman in professional tennis. As a man he could not compete as a professional. As a woman she made it to the top 20 at the age of 43. Renee Richards, still alive and thriving, does not support trans women in profession sports now based on her own experience.
The facts really do not support defending trans women in professional women’s sports because trans women do have biological advantages that are unfair.
Mister P
Sounds like Ed Virginia likes countries that are not progressing.
quantum
If a quick googling is to be believed, he actually works in LGBT public policy, which is kinda disturbing.
Halfnhalf
You notice that the tweet identifies them both the same. Unqualified men. Ones a man and one is a women. If the transwoman is unqualified as a transwoman. The transman is qualified by their logic. It appears they want no trans athletes period.
cliche guevara
That was pretty stark right?
GreekKeys
The hypocrisy’s the other way around. Why isn’t the “transman” (setting aside there’s no such thing as transing) on the men’s team? Oh! Because she’d lose. Both competing on the women’s team because they’d have a better chance of winning. PS: “Lia” threw this race to dissipate the furor over his presense in women’s sports.
The more this comes to the fore in the US, get ready for the backlash. Loudon County will be a picnic compared to what’s coming.
Here’s from a Democratic consultant: “I have been sounding the alarm all this time, and now the pigeons are coming home to roost. This midterm election year is going to be awful for Democrats. I was just discussing the poor polling on all this gobbledygook with my local-political friends and he said “every time another man cheats women out of their sports, Democrats lose ten House seats.”
Trangender ideology will kill not only the (real) gay movement, but the Democratic Party and, therefore, democracy. The GOP gets The House in the midterms, and they will because of you delusional nutbags, you think you’ll have ANY rights at all? The GOP version of your precious “trans affirming healthcare” will be electroshock therapy.
Which ain’t such a bad idea at this point.
Jaquelope
Caitlyyn uses Twitter. Sounds about right. She’s such a twit anyway.
Me2
Caitlyn still thinks like a Republican male, which is what she was for most of her adult life. There’s scientific proof that the athletic performance of transwomen who’ve been on hormone therapy for over a year, is indistinguishable from the performance of the average cis woman.
G R
Jenner is a hypocritical POS, a dilettante and a clueless ass-kissing Trump supporter. Can we PLEASE stop giving this woman air/print time!
SFMike
Can’t we just cancel this braindead publicity seeking right winger? Not reporting on anything this POS does or says is the best way to make it irreverent.
Mack
“Biological boys have no business in female sports.” But yet Jenner competes in Women’s golfing.
fredk3
caitlyn = the ultimate case of self loathing.
tomch52
What label does “she” consider herself to be? Another f’d up Republican is “her” label!
GrizzleyMichael
That twat gives transgenders a bad name
cliche guevara
” Why isn’t the “transman” (setting aside there’s no such thing as transing) on the men’s team? Oh! Because she’d lose.”
Because there are rules governing how trans athletes compete and he can’t compete as a man based on where he is in his transition.
Further, people that misgender are complete A**holes. That you can provide another person a minimal amount respect and human dignity speaks to your character. And given that you refuse to respect others I don’t really get why you would expect anyone to give you and your lectures about elections the time of day.
LumpyPillows
Approaching this with open eyes, Lia Thomas, a middling male swimmer, destroying the best women in the nation as a trans woman is hard to defend. The fact that she lost one race is irrelevant. The fact that a trans man is a bad swimmer is also irrelevant. Medical research in this area is sparse, having a lot to do with transphobia in academia. What does exist is often biased for the opposite reason. The IOC is wrong in its desire to be inclusive, time will prove this to be a bad idea. As more trans women start competing, this will become more apparent and embarrassing. This battle undermines defending trans rights over something that reality destroys; trans women are not women, even if we do love them and support them. There are real differences. Men are bigger and stronger than women. The fact that some men aren’t bigger and stronger is irrelevant. Caitlyn is right…which it pains me to admit, but I’m an honest person, unlike so many here.
cliche guevara
To be clear, you are presenting your opinion as fact.
Openminded
A question regarding your referencing “as more trans women start competing”. Can you see a day where maybe there will be enough trans athlete participation that we will have “men’s”, “women’s”, and “trans” categories and would the trans community embrace this? Of course that could then lead to “whites”, “blacks”, etc. categories since many people consider the black race to be physically superior and we must apparently erase any and everything that might give the opponent an advantage. (Not questioning your comment at all, just thinking out loud about this divisive subject)