Moviegoers, not to mention Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences voters, clearly saw a lot in director Luca Guardagnino’s dreamy adaptation of Call Me By Your Name.
But there’s one — or in this case, two — things that were definitely not featured in the film’s final cut. Or maybe uncut. We’ll never know.
And while Guardagnino has previously stated that he never intended to include more nudity in the film, a highly credible source has called BS.
James Ivory, who won the Oscar for writing the film’s screenplay, says his original script called for full-frontal from both the film’s two stars. Both Timothée Chalamet and Armie Hammer‘s contracts, however, nixed that plan.
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“When Luca says he never thought of putting nudity in, that is totally untrue,” Ivory told The Guardian. “He sat in this very room where I am sitting now, talking about how he would do it, so when he says that it was a conscious aesthetic decision not to—well, that’s just bullshit.”
Ivory added that seeing the scenes in the finished film in which the actors are covered up by sheets appears “phony.”
“I never liked doing that,” he added. “And I don’t do it, as you know.”
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Here’s Guardagnino’s comment Ivory is referring to, in which the director told the Hollywood Reporter he was not interested in more sex scenes:
“The tone would’ve been very different from what I was looking for. I wanted the audience to completely rely on the emotional travel of these people and feel first love. I didn’t want the audience to find any difference or discrimination toward these characters. It was important to me to create this powerful universality, because the whole idea of the movie is that the other person makes you beautiful — enlightens you, elevates you.”
Ivory added more context in an interview with Variety:
“Certainly in my screenplay there was all sorts of nudity. But according to Luca, both actors had it in their contract that there would be no frontal nudity, and there isn’t, which I think is kind of a pity. Again, it’s just this American attitude. Nobody seems to care that much, or be shocked, about a totally naked woman. It’s the men. This is something that must be so deeply cultural that one should ask: ’Why?’”
Ivory was also originally slated to write and direct the film, so we can only wonder what the finished product might have looked like in his hands.
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ryantbo
well Blu Ray just came out and no deleted sex scenes – which was a disappointment
[email protected]
I’m with James Ivory. He included full frontal in A Room With a View in addition to Maurice. I hope this doesn’t shut down the rumored sequel, however, I would prefer to see James Ivory’s version, if he had to recast.
OzJosh
Except that James Ivory wanted to cast Shia LeBouf as Oliver – and Shia has all the sex appeal of an old boot.
Mick406
And . . . he’s got a small dick and ugly to look at too!
Crystix
I love that a film about gay pedophilia is in the national spotlight representing LGBT. How sad we couldn’t see more sex between a child predator and his acolyte.
chris_clb614
I don’t think a prepubescent male would be able to achieve what occurred in the scene involving a peach. False equivalence and selective outrage, that’s all you’re doing.
OzJosh
Pedophilia is sexual interest or activity with a pre-pubescent child. The character in Call Me By Your Name is 17, about to turn 18. Grow up.
nm4047
As the book (film) are based in Italy, maybe you would also like to look up the age of consent in there before you start you troll activities.
Dwik27
Nice try homophobe. No one complained when the oldest living entity got Mary pregnant with Jesus when she was younger than 12. And a bit closer to home – no one complained when Patrick Swayze was having sex with Jennifer Grey in Dirty Dancing back in 1987 when he was supposed to be 24 and she 17 – same ages as the characters in Call Me By Your Name. Go troll some other site.
richardNobbs
Same old hetro double standard. You’d have to go back to Pretty Baby and that character was a 12-13 year old girl.
Dwik27
I agree with the Director. I can watch porn for that (and I do). In a movie like CMBYN, I’d rather see less and leave it to the imagination. Just because hetero themed love stories have gone pornographic over the last 30 years doesn’t mean we have to follow suit.
Ryan Field
An adult straight man from Allentown, PA was just arrested for running away to Mexico with a barely legal 16 year old girl. It made the news, people condemned it, and this man is now facing charges. It only happened recently and you can google that and find tons of stories about it.
With that said, there are some excellent LGBT films out there like “Love, Simon,” and “God’s Own Country,” that have wonderful gay content and they don’t exploit barely legal 17 year old boys with older men.
Just the fact that the part of the barely legal 17 year old boy was played by a 22 year old says something. Because if they had attempted to use a 17 year old boy for that part they all would have been facing charges. And don’t try to call me a Christian or a conservative because you’ll lose. I’m neither. I just don’t support this kind of behavior and when it comes to gay kids I want them to have the same opportunities that straight kids have.
Dwik27
Ryan – you are pretty far off base. The age of consent in Italy (now and in 1983 when the film is supposed to take place) is 14. The character of Elio was 17 (not barely 17 – don’t know where you got the “barely” from but it tells me something about how you try to make your point). So no, no one would have been facing any charges. And while Amrie Hammer may be 31 in real life, his character was only 24 – two years out of college. Lastly – the most obvious point. The younger character was the one who pursued the older character. There is absolutely nothing predatory about this story at all. If Elio had been pursuing another 18 year old and the same things happened as in the film, would that have mattered to you? So why does it matter when he pursues a 24 year old?
Cylest Brooks
This is an interesting conversation! Thanks to everyone here for keeping the conversation constructive!
Personal opinion: In this situation, I agree with Dwik27… this particular plot doesn’t seem to fit into the narrative of aggressive, predatory pedophilia. Instead, this seems more like a young person idolizing an older person at a time when age matters more. (Meaning, nobody would care if Elio was 31 and Hammer’s character was 38.)
It’s sad because pedophilia is a very serious topic that only gets diluted when we use these kinds of relationships as examples.
zumanimonet
Dwik – Arnie Hammer is only 31. Next to Timothy, he looks 40. Timothy passes for a 17 year but Arnie doesn’t look anything close to a 24-year-old. Perhaps if they got a younger looking guy that looked closer to Timothy’s age, people wouldn’t have a problem with it.
Heywood Jablowme
@zumanimonet: That was my reaction too, and you put it just right. There are plenty of actors who look 24 (some are probably 31, lol). It just looked “off” to me.
DCguy
You claim if they’d used a 17 year old actor they would have been facing charges?
You are completely wrong for 2 reasons.
1. Acting, simulated, there is no actual sex going on. That would be like saying that an actor plays a part where he slugs somebody in a bar fight he should be arrested for it.
2. Even if the first part wasn’t true, the age of concent in Italy would make it a moot point.
The reason they cast an actor in his 20’s to play the younger person is most likely because Armie Hammer is in his 30s not around 25 as he was trying to play, and they didn’t want to make that too obvious.
Sam6969
I agree with Dwik27 and Cylest Brooks, in particular. I would add the parents are aware of what is happening between the two and everyone consents. There is nothing unhealthy in this relationship.
Admittedly, in the book, Elio has serious doubts after he has his first sex scene and it hurts. It is different from what he expected, so it cools him down for a little while, but soon he returns to his infatuation for Oliver. Those two are exploring or discovering each other and themselves. Age difference, here, is not an issue, as there is always respect and never abuse (Oliver listens to what Elio says and respect his boundaries).
The book is credible, more nuanced and realistic than the movie.
Heywood Jablowme
“Ivory added that seeing the scenes in the finished film in which the actors are covered up by sheets appears ‘phony.’ “I never liked doing that,” he added. “And I don’t do it, as you know.”
But you did, Blanche, you did!
Sam6969
Luca Guadagnino : « I didn’t want the audience to find any difference or discrimination toward these characters. It was important to me to create this powerful universality, because the whole idea of the movie is that the other person makes you beautiful — enlightens you, elevates you.”
In other words, waffling aside, he thinks his movie would not have had the same success with more explicit gay sex scenes (and it would have lost its chances at the Oscars – It would not have change much the outcome). Sex is a beautiful thing and it can enlighten and elevate gay men, too. So, this explanation sounds phony to me (and it is, considering what Ivory reported, as a privileged witness).
It is safer for the producers, if the movie remains in the world of ideas and suggestions, far enough from the body and realistic sex scenes. Guadagnino says the movie would not have been the same: sure, firstly because the actors would probably not have been the same, as such scenes would have required them to way surpass their limits.
I read the book and the writer managed to make those sex scenes emotionally powerful, realistic and modest at the same time. Translated into the final scenario, it would have made a deeper and better movie (in my eyes).
chris33133
Both actors have clauses in their contracts prohibiting frontal nudity; in what world do such prohibitions mean that full frontal “almost” happened?