Senators Lindsey Graham (SC) and Kyrsten Sinema (AZ) got into an unusually heated exchange on the Senate Floor yesterday
Graham was discussing his opposition to the border deal. Sinema (previously Democratic and now Independent,) had worked on the 250-page bill with bipartisan support over the past few months. She says this included Senator Graham’s team.
The bipartisan border deal failed to advance in the Senate on Wednesday afternoon by a vote of 49 to 50. It needed 60 votes.
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Sinema was unhappy with Graham blocking the bill. She was particularly frustrated that he voted against the “motion to proceed”. She pointed out that if he had voted in favor, he and other senators could suggest amendments to parts they thought needed tweaking.
It probably did not help when Graham called Sinema’s bill a “half-ass” attempt at solving mass immigration.
Graham did say the bill “did a pretty good job in many ways” but added, “I didn’t think it was enough.”
When pushed further by Sinema, a rattled Graham said he didn’t trust Senate leaders to follow due process and allow for amendments.
“Here is what I’m saying. This has been a half-ass effort to deal with border security,” he said.
“I didn’t see any willingness by anybody to allow an amendment process where we could deal with the border issue,” Graham said hotly. “That’s ass-backwards.”
“This idea we’ve done enough on the border is BS. I’m not going to help Ukraine until we’ve done a better job helping ourselves.”
“We got the crap kicked out of us for weeks”
Graham suggested to Sinema that rather than push for the legislation to move forward and then debate amendments, the sponsors should have reached out to lawmakers in advance to ask them what they’d like to see changed to gain their support.
Sinema later pushed him again. She says the only way amendments could have been made to the bill was if Graham had voted for the motion to proceed.
Graham pointed out he’d been involved with the last mass immigration bill in 2013. He said he and fellow lawmakers had debated it for “weeks” and it had involved a lot of to-ing and fro-ing.
“We got the crap kicked out of us for weeks. We did not do that here.”
“You’re not convincing me I’m the problem,” Graham snapped back, pointing his finger at Sinema.
Sinema’s claim that Graham and his team were involved in agreeing the deal was backed up by Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), who also sponsored the legislation.
“His top staff were in the room when we negotiated the bill. We negotiated key provisions directly with him,” he said.
Watch below. It begins to get heated from the 3.21 mark.
Donald Trump urges GOP not to support border deal
The border bill was bundled together with billions of dollars of aid to Ukraine and Israel.
Former President Donald Trump had urged Republican lawmakers to vote against the bill. Some commentators have suggested it plays into his hands if the mass immigration at the border remains a problem in the run-up to the election. Others say Democrats will now point to Republicans and blame them for not passing legislation to ease mass immigration.
President Biden accused Republicans of “walking away because they’ve got Donald Trump calling and threatening them.”
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Graham also prompted eye-rolls after praising conservatives for keeping their noses out of his business.
Hi
Nothing on Biden’s quotes, Queerty?
Let me help with the reporting.
“”He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended (‘if it was 2013 — when did I stop being Vice President?’), and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began (‘in 2009, am I still Vice President?’),” the report said. “He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died.””
That’s our President. And running for re election. Scary.
“difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”
Feeble old man can’t be charged? By his own account he’s well aware and alert. So bring on the charges…?
Warmonger Joe.
Jaesly
My understanding is that this site is primarily a gay entertainment website, not a general interest new site. So what business would Queerty have in publishing a story about accusations made by an admittedly Republican special prosecutor’s report?
abfab
Jaesly, you worded that perfectly. Thank you.
ZzBomb
And?
So?
Trump thought Haley was the Speaker of the House on J6th. An event that occurred far more recently than Biden’s VP days… to which there 8 full years of b/c Obama rocked.
Baron Wiseman
@Jaesly
“My understanding is that this site is primarily a gay entertainment website….”
Yes, that is correct. Certainly, not exclusively.
“So what business would Queerty have in publishing a story about accusations….”
Because it is currently one of the most important news stories in the world. Our current president, an LGBT ally, had a transgender person show her new breasts on the White House lawn. He is an ally who believes that men can “chest feed.”
Our last president, was the first president in decades who did not get us in a new war/conflict. We now have a president that has the world on fire and on the verge of a world war.
I’m sure President Biden would take it as an insult that he is not part of LGBT news.
ZzBomb
“Our last president, was the first president in decades who did not get us in a new war/conflict.”
Yeah he only surrendered to the Taliban. LOL Real leadership!?
Steve9999
I’d rather have a man whose hooked up to a respirator and needs to point at pictures to answer questions than the traitorous, pathalogically lying, self obsessed ball of orange cr*p that’s Donald Trump. If you think that for a second that man cares about this country, you are as delusional as all of his cult members who send their scratch off, trailer trash dollars to fund his legal defense fund.
Sure there are plenty of things that aren’t “ideal” about Biden, but if it’s between him and the insurrectionist Mango Mussolini, who would outlaw abortion and gay rights, there’s no question I’m gonna vote for Joe.
still_onthemark
@Baron: You say Biden “had a transgender person show her new breasts on the White House lawn.” You make it sound like Biden asked her to do that. No, AS YOU KNOW, she was thrown out of the event and banned from the White House.
abfab
”a person shows her new breasts” (Sharon’s new favorite fetish)
Put down the porno mags and stop molesting young children in restrooms, BARON WISEMAN. Pervert.
Shift your focus, save your ass and stop boring us with your imaginings. Pedos need help. Get some.
LumpyPillows
Don destroyed decades of alliances and emboldened dictators and our enemies worldwide. He set the stage for everything that is going wrong now. Biden has shown great restraint. A return of Don would have him asking again if he can nuke enemies. Scary thought.
I wish Biden were not running again. His age is a real issue. Unlike the Trump toadies here, I can admit facts. Even with that admission, Don is far worse for the country and the planet.
Baron Wiseman
@Steve9999
President Trump was president for four years, what gay rights did he “outlaw”?
Baron Wiseman
@still_onthemark
You are correct.
Perhaps the White House should be more prudent about whom they invite.
Baron Wiseman
@LumpyPillows
Your words don’t bear out the current reality.
President Trump was the first president in decades that did not involve America in a new war or conflict. He miraculously brought some peace to the Middle East with the Abraham Accords.
On the other hand, we have Biden setting the world on fire. Talks of World War III never happened during Trump’s Administration like they are today.
abfab
And Barron has Donald Pervert Trump to look up to. He just LOVES it when he hears it right out of his mouth. ”I JUST LOVE TO GRAB WOMEN BY THIER PUS SIES–THEY JUST LOVE IT, AND THEN i GO RIGHT IN TO THE LIPS AND KiSS THEM-THEY JUST LOVE IT”
The true patriot, the proud republicans. ”F u c k women and then leave them to give birth.” The new Right Wing Tagline.
It’s no wonder Barron and imbama and decranzzetrans love this cretin……
decrans
Meanwhile, you call women you disagree with “whores.” You ain’t that far behind your idol Trump, little Trumpy McAbs. You have the same vocabulary.
abfab
I do. And that would make you a whore.
decrans
Whatever you say, little Trumpy. Keep tut tutting when your secret idol Trump does the exact same thing you accuse him of and then blurt out ‘Yentl’ lyrics randomly. You look so sane. What a rational person you are.
abfab
Easy enough.
God
Our heavenly Father
Oh God and my father
Who is also in heaven
May the light
Of this flickering candle
Illuminates the night the way
Your spirit illuminates my soul
Papa, can you hear me?
Papa, can you see me?
Papa, can you find me in the night?
Papa, are you near me?
Papa, can you hear me?
Papa, can you help me not be
Frightened?
Looking at the skies
I seem to see a million eyes
Which ones are yours?
Where are you now that yersterday
Has waved goodbye
And closed its doors?
The night is so much darker
The wind is so much colder
The world I see is so much bigger
Now that I’m alone
Papa, please forgive me
Try to understand me
Papa, don’t you know I had no choice?
Can you hear me praying
Anything I’m saying
Even though the night is filled
With voices?
I remember ev’rything you thaught me
Ev’ry book I’ve ever read
Can all the words in all the books
Help me to face what lies ahead?
The trees are so much taller
And I feel so much smaller
The moon is twice as lonely
And the stars are half as bright
Papa, how I love you
Papa, how I need you
Papa, how I miss you
Kissing me goodnight
Papa, i can hear you
Papa, i can feel you
Papa, why i love you
Papa, watch me bright
Songwriters: Marilyn Bergman / Alan Bergman / Michel Legrand
Mister P
It vey. Go away!
Mister P
Oy vey. Go away!
abfab
Oh, I rather liked the it vey! ox Go away little trolls! Shoo!
abfab
Although, they generate more $$$ for the site with each and everyone of their insane comments.
decrans
Yep. Filed Under: Liberals Whining About Capitalism Incessantly and Never Fixing Their problems. Til death do us part. Same old s h I t
Fahd
Sinema’s corporate donors/masters must have some pretty important special interest stuff buried in the bill for her to push so hard. She rarely pays attention unless their interests are involved.
As for the Republicans, putting party before country is nothing new with them. They are not the patriots they pretend to be. Simply deplorable.
m
Why didn’t they exercise their 2nd ammendment rights on one another?
abfab
LOL
RoyM
Watching two right-wingers fight is always good fun. It’s just too bad it’s about such an important issue. Sinema is a piece of conservative garbage, she got in bed with more conservative garbage during the Trump years and now is getting shown how much pull she has over her Republican buddies – none. Hopefully she won’t run for reelection, go off to whatever high paying job she’s lined up with Industry that she’s supported over the people who voted for her (her slavish devotion to big pharma is the most glaring example) and never be seen or heard from again.
Baron Wiseman
It’s official. America’s top law enforcement department thinks Biden’s brains have turned into mashed potatoes – and that was from interviews 7 years ago! Biden’s own Department of Justice have thrown him under the bus. They didn’t charge him with a single charge, but dropped the most damning indictments of President Biden.
Special Counsel Robert Hur released a 345 page report that Joe Biden stole SCIF-designated classified documents and improperly stored them at the Penn Biden Center, his Delaware garage, his Virginia home and his lawyer’s Boston office. No charges for Biden, but for our two-tiered justice system in Biden’s America, Trump will be charged for similar offenses. Biden will not be charged because, as the report states, he’s a “sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.” Conversly, Trump will be charged because he lacks dementia that Biden exhibits which apparently prevents his prosecution.
Yesterday, while giving a speech defending his memory, Biden referred to Egypt’s President El-Sisi as the ‘President of Mexico.’ Biden also said he represents Americans of red and ‘green’ states.
For those paying attention, yesterday was a coordinated attack…the media, the DOJ and the Democratic party threw Biden under the bus. This is the first real step to replace him as the nominee. 25th Amendment, anyone?
At this point, the only question is who?
Jaesly
Baron, you do know that Robert Hurt is a registered Republican, right? He was just expressing his opinion.
ZzBomb
It’s hilarious how Biden, to you, has dementia but Trump not knowing who was Speaker of the House just a few short years ago isn’t.
Either way, I like leaders who don’t want to be dictators and believe in democracy.
Baron Wiseman
@Jaesly
Pretty nice of this “republican” not to charge the president with the felonies that he committed.
The exact opposite of what Democrats have done, and are doing, to President Trump.
How about the Democrats do what the this republican has done for President Biden.
Not a chance!
ZzBomb
“Pretty nice of this “republican” not to charge the president with the felonies that he committed.”
LOL Someone didn’t bother reading the document.
Baron Wiseman
@ZzBomb
Please list for me the felonies that Robert Hur charged President Biden with. Thanks
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ZzBomb
Again, since we have a well established history of Baron’s incapability of reading comprehension:
LOL Someone didn’t bother reading the document.
Steve9999
“Our current president, an LGBT ally, had a transgender person show her new breasts on the White House lawn.”
Just like a Republican. You try to infer that the President “had a trasngender person…” ……like he invited her up on the balcony to do what was universally condemned by one and all including his administration. Just stop twisting the truth like your pathologically lying candidtae.
abfab
Mrs Baron von Twisted Teacher is so prim and proper in her class. See how evenly she arranges her lines, numbered lines!!! Bitch troll. You are always asking questions Baron. Dumb questions.
abfab
Mrs Wiseman is still waiting for class to fill in her quiz. Shove it, teach.
ZzBomb
Again, regarding the border:
You can’t call something a crisis if you’re only willing to campaign on it.
I might not like Sinema, but at least she did more than any Republican ever could claim at trying to resolve a decades long issue the Republicans created.
Baron Wiseman
@ZzBomb
Please explain to me how the Republicans created the border crisis.
(This should be good. 🙂 )
ZzBomb
Please explain to me how the Democrats created the border “crisis” since it was Bush who turned the INS into ICE which has been plagued w/ problems ever since.
(This should be good. 🙂 )
ZzBomb
Also:
You can’t call something a “crisis” if you’re only willing to campaign on it.
Baron Wiseman
@ZzBomb
President Bush has nothing to do with what is currently happening at the border.
It is Joe Biden that has let over 10+ million unvetted illegal aliens into our country. It is Joe Biden that is letting Chinese fentanyl stream across our border killing nearly 100,00 Americans every year. It is Joe Biden that is letting in terrorists into our country. It is Joe Biden who is nearly putting us in a civil war and getting the Supreme Court involved to remove razor wire to let in even more illegals at the border. It is Joe Biden that is engaging in human sex trafficking. It is Joe Biden that is bringing in people from all over the world to be new Democratic voters.
Three years ago, we had one of the most secure borders our country has ever seen. That all changed when Joe Biden came into office and rescinded most of Trump’s border policies and issued over 650 executive orders regarding the border.
President Biden signed 94 executive orders regarding the border in his first 100 days. Many of those were rescinding the previous Trump orders to secure the border.
Despite Mayorkas, Biden and Harris telling us repeatedly that the border is closed, more than 10 million illegal aliens have entered our country since Biden took office. This exceeds any year of legal immigration at Ellis Island in the 20th century.
Still waiting on your answer…..
ZzBomb
LOL
Copy Paste
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No original thought from Baron Turning Point Whataboutism
abfab
His dick is pasted on.
ZzBomb
Decrans, Baron, and HI,
This is a friendly reminder that Obama gave us the gift of the ACA which covers mental health treatment. If you need assistance getting health care coverage, let me know! More and more people are discovering the wonders of having healthcare coverage and access to mental health facilities.
I care about you!
Hi
ZzBomb.
You have nothing to debate so you mock mental health? That’s your comeback?
Ignorant and vile.
Baron Wiseman
@ZzBomb
Apparently, if you don’t parrot the left-wing, cult narrative; one is in need of “mental health facilities.”
abfab
Check yourself in Sharon. That’s if you have facilities in the boon docks of Ameeeerica where you ”dwell”.
ZzBomb
HI,
Well considering it was an original post, it wasn’t a comeback.
And I genuinely do care about mental health and how clearly you need it.
The ACA legit does cover mental health services.
ZzBomb
Apparently, if you don’t parrot the left-wing, cult narrative; one is in need of “mental health facilities.”
Says the man who literally copy and pastes all his responses across numerous articles.
Poly, wanna cracker?
Baron Wiseman
@ZzBomb
Since you read the 235 Special Counsel’s report, I’m still waiting on the list of felonies from Robert Hur.
Also, I’m still waiting on your reason the Republicans caused 10+ million illegal aliens from over 150 countries to invade our country..
From which article did I “copy and paste” this from?
Tick, tock….
abfab
You should be waiting down at the rest stop looking for tricks.
decrans
Again, that’s a simplistic liberal answer, Zz. In most states, healthcare plans cost upwards of $400 for the working class. Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck. And again, AGAIN. YOUR STATE CALIFORNIA HAS EXTENSIVE MEDI-CAL BACKLOGS. So really, you just have ableist humor. But when Trump mocked mentally challenged people, it was just AWFUL. The worst! The absolute worst! Get over your libbed out virtue signaling, zz. Sniff the neoliberal reality.
LumpyPillows
I’m no fan of Sinema, but darling Lindsey makes her look good. He really is pathetic.
abfab
I’d love to see Lady Lindssey have a nervous break down on the floor. He has them on TV but that’s not the same. He really is a piece of work.
johncp56
GOP is toxic, this is why we talk about it,
Baron Wiseman
Do you hear that? The 25th Amendment chatter across the country is growing louder and louder.
abfab
Difficult to hear much of anything over you.
Kangol2
It’s you screaming at yourself in a locked room, Baronin!
Kangol2
Lady G Lindsey and the GQP are full of sh!t. They got a bill that gave them nearly all they asked for and few alleged Democratic priorities and thanks to the deranged psychopathic ex-president traitor scumbag racist rapist Don the Con, they tanked it in the Senate and the House. They are beholden to their cult leader Don the Con, and Lady G Lindsey’s hissy fits aren’t changing that or the fact that he takes dictation from a psychopathic traitor like Don the Con.
Hi
Kangol2
Leave It to the Democrats to say such vile things. One of the above post mocks mental health. Now your mocking an effeminate man by referring him as Lady?
Does that make you proud? Are you okay with mocking all effeminate straight men?
You’re transphobic. And it’s insulting to the LGBTQ community to use such nasty words. If it’s okay for you, then It makes it okay for others? Especially those that are against LGBTQ.
Hypocrite.
decrans
That’s pretty much the modern left to a tee. Invented rules for thee, but not for me. When anyone other than the far left engages in this, cue the butthurt hysterics and gnashing of teeth.
Baron Wiseman
@Kangol2
“They got a bill that gave them nearly all they asked for….”
Not true, not even close.
Democrats produced an immigration bill that allows almost two million illegal aliens into our country every year. Umm…how about zero. The bill codifies into law illegal aliens invading our country every year!!! Get serious.
When the Democrats produce a serious bill to stop illegal immigration in the Senate like the Republicans did in the House; then Republicans will consider the bill.
Ronbo
Baron, we ARE a nation of immigrants, tone down your xenophobia please. Wouldn’t you prefer to utilize their talents to help our nation – as we did in the past?
Or better yet, why not stop our governments regime change polices and accept democratically ELECTED governments? Why turn these nations into right-wing satellite states that oppress their own democracy-loving people?
I suggest you research “Regime Change in Latin America” Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chili, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Guatemala, Haiti, Nicaragua, Panama and Venezuela come to mind. Destabilizing isn’t helping democracy.
abfab
And DOLE in Hawaii. Republican administrations bend over backwards for big corps….every single day.
DOMINO SUGAR in Fl. Talk about regime change. FIRESTONE TIRES in Libya. It’s endless.
Republicans prop up and still don’t give a damn about human beings or the environment who reside in ”shithole countries”.
Ronbo
abfab, regime change is one thing that both parties engage in. Has it EVER helped the situation? Only for the corporations producing lethal weapons.
To blame it on one political party shows a huge blind spot. I watched Hillary’s false right-wing speech in support of Bush’s WMD lies and the subsequent regime change kill over 200,000 innocent Iraqui. Warhawk, Victoria Nuland, was Biden’s choice for the State Dept and we’ve had three new wars!
The status quo of both parties is status war.
Baron Wiseman
BREAKING: President Biden has directed the Department of Justice to begin an official investigation into who this “Jill” person is that keeps following him around.
abfab
NOT BREAKING: Baron Wiseman is crazy.
inbama
Biden thought his years in the Senate would allow him to deal with Republicans where Obama could not, and now appointing Republican Merrick Garland to head Justice and leaving Trump appointees in place has come back to bite him.
Trusting Republicans is as idiotic as trusting Hamas.
Baron Wiseman
@inbama
Republican Merrick Garland?
Leaving Trump appointees?
Please explain.
inbama
For his many crimes, Trump should have been convicted and jailed by now, but Garland took so long, that it’s not going to happen.
And Garland allowed Hur to pull a Comey with this pseudo vindication filled with already-established GOP talking points.
Ronbo
If inbama can’t see what 86% of the public recognizes as an elderly, man with impaired judgment, he isn’t looking. He can see tRump but remains blind to the oligarchs’ false choice between a crook and a good man who has lost his mental abilities.
Does inbama understand how our oligarchy works?
abfab
Dr. Rambo. Please. Having a senile president is fine. Get over it.
Ronbo
abfab, communicate about reality, not your opinion. Now OVER 86% of the public can see something which you can’t acknowledge.
We should prevent Donald tRump, not enable his election with a senile candidate. I posted here about Hillary losing the Electoral College, did that happen? I didn’t want it; but, I warned everyone within earshot. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
mastik8
Sinema may be beef jerky in a ballgown but you do not mess with Aunt Pittypat. No, no, no. Hell hath no fury like a LadyG scorned. “Never wrestle with a pig because you’ll lose, both of you will get dirty and the pig likes it.”
Ronbo
Please notice that most of these comments seem to be Democrat against Republican – NOT right vs. wrong!?! How sad that the DNC and RNC have achieved such divisions.
I’d rather see both sides condemning America’s new position as provider of “forever wars”. Both sides are pushing everything BUT ceasefire or peace or human dignity for the victims of our wars.
Note that both the DNC and RNC have maintained tax cuts for the rich… corporate for-profit healthcare… debt-slave education, etc…. We have an ever-increasing level of poverty under both establishment parties – Republicans and Democrats. So please don’t tell me that those who posted above are posting for humanity.
These self-centered individuals are posting FOR their political parties – not America. It’s shameful how easily the wealthy and their willing media can divide and conquer us.
I expect more from my people than hate and division. We once changed America into accepting our dignity and equality – no small feat. Let’s get back to the basics of humanity – rather than a political civil war.
abfab
My people. That’s funny. Sorry child but hate and division is baked into the system and Queerty is here to point it out. To EXPOSE the Republicans. If you can’t take the heat the democrats are dishing up, get out of the god damn kitchen.
decrans
What heat? Solidifying for-profit healthcare and the military industrial complex? How very Republican of you, little Trumpy McAbs. You sound like Dubya circa 2021.
mastik8
Both sides are now owned by the same corporations who give to both to cover themselves. We’re incidental. Our government admitted that they received more pushback against Net Neutrality than they had ever received in history. Both sides admitted to the pushback. So they tabled it then three months later at 3am when no one was watching they passed it because Blackrock and other hedge funds wanted it and they run the country. As the same corporations that own the politicians also own the media it was barely covered and most people realized what had happened after the fact. The Pelosi Index does better than the market, as does the Crenshaw Index. The Emoluments Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment is regularly ignored. Our Public Square is owned by billionaires that regularly edit their coverage to suit their needs. There are many that have never heard about the Twitter Files and our governments curtailment of our free speech rights and it’s intrusion into news coverage. We fight amongst ourselves because they want us distracted so we don’t notice.
Baron Wiseman
@mastik8
Murthy v. Missouri (originally filed as Missouri v. Biden) is a case pending in the Supreme Court of the United States involving the First Amendment, the federal government, and social media.
The Twitter Files exposed what the Biden Administration is willing to do to curtail and censor dissenting free speech in our country. It is very scary and I look forward to the Supreme Court’s ruling.
abfab
It’s more than scary. It’s very, VERY scary!
Ronbo
Please take note of abfabs desire to turn EVERY argument into an us vs. them (Republican vs. Democrat) argument. THIS is exactly what our oligarch owner want us doing – squabbling at each other rather than realizing that their RNC and DNC have the empire under their control.
No thinking person would choose either tRump or Biden for our leadership. THAT should make everyone aware that the system is rigged. But here we have abfab squawking and multi-posting to keep us going along with their game of half-truths, misinformation, never-ending wars. It’s now Biden who is arming Israel and trying to expand wars, tRump will likely do it next.
Stop it abfab. If you must post, post something that expands knowledge – rather than eclipse it.
abfab
I’m ”keeping you going?” I didn’t realize I had that much power. Stop dictating.
Ronbo
abfab doesn’t even understand that quotation marks are for actual quotations – not his/her/their ego.
The primary thing abfab does is excite extremism – which is what the oligarch want (us fighting against each other so we don’t fight them).
dbmcvey
Terrible people fighting with each other. Just like with Godzilla vs. Kong, it’s the bystanders who get hurt.
Ronbo
Research Scott Ritter (former marine, weapons inspector and intelligence officer) on YouTube to hear what our oligarchs are desperate for us to not hear. We don’t have to only watch the media distraction of Godzilla vs. Kong.
abfab
Stop assuming that WE only watch the ”media distraction”. You’ve told us over and over again to broaden our media horizons like you’re the only one who does that.
Ronbo
If abfab watched independent media, they would understand. But, their ego won’t accept anything but their own opinion, attacks and half-truths.
abfab is a perfect example of the Dunning–Kruger effect: the tendency of people with low ability to give overly positive assessments of their ability. Complex issues can rarely be distilled into such thoughts a ‘they are poopy heads’.