The dust has settled on Popeapalooza ’15, and in the wake of Papa’s American Popeathon, some big questions linger about the secret, not secret, public/private meeting between Pope Francis and Kentucky’s own Kim Davis that did or did not but actually did occur.
Like all good mysteries, there are many conflicting accounts, with the Vatican’s official stance remaining fairly tight-lipped. The Catholic Church hiding behind secrets? We’re just as surprised as you.
Earlier in the week Davis gave an interview to ABC News describing a private meeting she and her husband had with Francis at the Vatican’s nunciature in Washington, saying, “Just knowing that the pope is on track with what we’re doing and agreeing, you know, it kind of validates everything.”
Now days after Davis’ account raised eyebrows on the left and the right, the Vatican has released its “official” version of what happened.
The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said Francis met with “several dozen” people, Davis among them, at the Vatican’s embassy in Washington just before leaving for New York.
Lombardi claims, in contrast to Davis’ account, that Francis never held a private or even semi-private audience with her — that it was more of a lineup-style, “Hey, how ya doin’? Looking great — have a rosary. Stay strong. Ciao,” sort of set-up.
“The pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects,” Lombardi said.
But as evidenced by the millions who crowded the streets of the pope’s various stateside pitstops, you don’t just casually wander into the Vatican’s D.C. embassy to meet the Father of Fathers.
According to Davis’ lawyer, Mat Staver (never trust a Mat with one “t”), an unnamed Vatican official made contact with Davis on Sept. 14, the day she returned to work from her stint in jail, to invite her to the event, saying the pope wanted to meet her.
Staver also adds a bit of cloak-and-dagger intrigue befitting the Catholic Church — he says Vatican security told Davis to change her hairstyle so she wouldn’t be recognized, as the church wanted to keep the meeting a secret. Either that or the Vatican was just looking for any excuse to get Davis to do something with that hair.
In Staver’s account, Davis met with Francis in a separate room at the embassy apart from the lineup, which would make sense if the Vatican really was trying to keep the meeting hush-hush.
But whichever story sounds more plausible — and we aren’t exactly brimming with trust for either the Vatican or Davis — Davis was given an audience (however brief) with the leader of one of the oldest religious institutions in the world. So, how did that happen?
Don’t expect much more out of the Vatican. Lombardi declined to say who invited Davis or how much Francis knew about her story before meeting her. And when the Vatican declines to share something it clearly knows, it’s a safe assumption they aren’t comfortable with the truth.
The Associated Press points to Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, the Vatican nuncio in Washington, as a likely contender for who did the actual reaching out to Davis on Francis’ behalf.
Vigano, a former top Vatican administrator who was transferred to the United States after he exposed corruption that cost the Holy See millions, has since taken up the so-called “religious freedom” torch.
According to the AP, “In a 2012 speech to the University of Notre Dame, Vigano denounced threats to religious liberty in the U.S. and abroad, citing a public school curriculum presenting same-sex relations as ‘natural and wholesome.'”
Best case scenario? Antigay factions within the American church arranged for Davis to receive face-time with their supreme leader, who was mostly clueless about the details.
That’s a pretty uninspiring best case. If the debate is over how much the Catholic Church opposes gay marriage, we don’t expect any endorsements from this or any other pope.
The only pope we’re interested in is named Olivia and she gets things DONE.
Grant Mealey
I thought it was all a lie anyway?
Arcamenel
I love that gif! Kerry Washington is beautiful.
stanhope
miss pope [not Olivia] got punked. LOL Kim Davis and her den of vipers decided to use the meeting with miss pope for their own PR purposes. miss pope didn’t see this one coming figuring Kim would be so overjoyed for a meeting she’d tow the line and keep her mouth shut. Clearly miss pope doesn’t understand how white trash snake handlers work. So now miss pope is walking back the story with a new spin. As Carol King once said, it’s too late baby….we now have confirmation that the Fiat using, humble bitch is a fraud. I was never sucked in but I was amazed at how many were calling this a new day. Yeah right. I’ll wager that at night miss pope leaves her humble digs and heads over to the Vatican vaults puts on one of many ermine robes, the real ruby red slippers made from real rubies [Queen Elizabeth wanted them but the Vatican wouldn’t sell], places a 10 lb diamond crusted crown on her head and leans upon a solid gold dancer oops scepter and walks though and looks at the stolen art works that wound up in the Vatican. miss pope probably drops a pinch of snuff in her cheek as she reviews the works of the masters laughing all of the way.
Bob LaBlah
The best way to judge how effective his “message” was is to look at the balance sheets today and check them again on De. 31st. The TREMENDOUS assets of that church notwithstanding they do take notice when the contributions to their damn lie of a cause/belief begin to drop.
aliengod
This is exactly what I’ve said since the first of many stories about this surfaced on Queerty. The Pope met with dozens of people that were drug in front of him by his handlers. He most likely had no idea who this ignorant hilljack from Kentucky even was.
What Pope Francis did do intentionally was to meet with Yayo Grassi, an openly gay man and his longtime partner. I think this turns the table on the story that Kim Davis and her attorneys tried to tell.
GG
The controversy for the pope et. al. notwithstanding, dear little kim shows her true colors at every turn. Indeed, kim, this man IS NOT OF YOUR RELIGION! Why would you agree to meet him? Your religion says followers of other religions are going to hell. Did you tell the pope he was going to hell? No, of course you didn’t. The reason you went to meet him was to try to twist anything that might occur into support for your misguided, illegal, hateful cause and to extend your 15 minutes despite contrarily claiming to be a spotlight nonseeker.
And, as an observer, let me tell you, kim, it ain’t lookin’ pretty.
Giancarlo85
@aliengod: he had no idea? So he had no idea about that nutcase who is plastered in media and is covered in international media? I saw Kim’s stupid face on the BBC even. I highly doubt the Pope didn’t know who he was meeting. Cool story bro.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
So Pope Frankie meets with an abhorrent, vile, philandering, slut, adultress???
Kevan1
I thought it odd that the Pope’s people would allow him to support a women who’s supporters include people the U.S. Government referred to as radicals. A group that threatened to kill the State Governor and state sheriff.
Thought the crazy bitch was lying out her toothless snout. One good thing is that she and her motley group come off as even less credible than before.
Xzamilio
@aliengod: Denial is a disease, man.
aliengod
@Xzamilio: Maybe it is. Apparently a disease that you’re suffering from.
Gary Hecklinger
Wow! We already knew she. Is a liar.. But to put this on the Pope like she has.. I am certain that the Pope is not pleased!
Bisexual-Transwoman
@GG: Huh? They are both the same religion but just different sects of it, and both are against LGBT people and our rights.
aliengod
@Giancarlo85: She stood in a line, kissed his ring and he handed her a rosary. Get over it. If you’d focus on the positive occasionally maybe your constant bitterness would dissipate. And stop with the “bro”. It takes away from your delicate femininity.
Esri
I think it behooves us all to read the recent New York Times article on the whole Pope Francis and Kim Davis meeting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/europe/pope-francis-kim-davis-meeting.html?_r=0
She was one of many whom the papal nuncio invited to meet Pope Francis. He didn’t really know who she was. At any rate, before the Pope met with her he had an audience with a former student of his in Argentina who is openly gay and who brought along his husband of 19 years!
partypig
This is the entire statement from the Vatican:
“The brief meeting between Mrs. Kim Davis and Pope Francis at the Apostolic Nunciature in Washington, DC has continued to provoke comments and discussion. In order to contribute to an objective understanding of what transpired I am able to clarify the following points:
Pope Francis met with several dozen persons who had been invited by the Nunciature to greet him as he prepared to leave Washington for New York City. Such brief greetings occur on all papal visits and are due to the Pope’s characteristic kindness and availability. The only real audience granted by the Pope at the Nunciature was with one of his former students and his family.
The Pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects.”
It should be noted that the only real audience granted by the Pope at the Nunciature was with one of his former students and his family who happen to be an openly gay couple.
Sweetie Pie
The Pope loves the gays….as long as they don’t get married
Desert Boy
The best thing about this post is the Kerry Washington GIF. Stunning!
M J Martinez Crogan
Phuck that cult leader and that Christian cunt …
martinbakman
Francis the Talking Pope can kiss my grits.
We already knew he proclaimed gay marriage a threat.
Don’t understand how Huffy Post has kept up the Pope-Francis-Love-Parade for so long. Sux.
NJjoe
Seriously leaving Olivia Pope out of it. I don’t think the Pope was well informed over the entire situation with Davis. Why she was THERE to begin with is a mystery
to me, she’s not Catholic. I am extremely suspicious over how hush-hush the entire “meeting” was orchestrated and why would the Pope want to meet with her or who had her meet him. This entire Pope/Davis things is the makings of a Lifetime movie. Of course, Davis receives no money—-that will go to gay kids who are kicked to the curbed by their religious parents, the kids in shelters, get them on their feet, etc. Working title: “The Adulteress Clerk of Rowan County: A Story of Hate.”
Lonny Bradley Alois Regan
https://www.queerty.com/?p=393270
VivaViejo
Vatican Confirms Pope Met With Gay Student, His Partner In Latest Twist To Davis Saga
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/world-news/kim-davis-pope-francis-gay-student
Daggerman
..Oh my god, I wanna vomit! the only thing that’s left is if they go to bed with each other!!!
Mack
The Vatican’s response sound plausible. I would bet that some right wing Cardinal invited her to give the appearance of support from the Pope. Perhaps someone owing a favor to Donahue or even Perkins. But it still hilarious that’s it not a show “of support” for Davis as she reported.
NJjoe
@Mack:
It wouldn’t be the first time Davis and her lawyer have lied. That photo of support for her that was taken for another event. This will all come back on her. Karma is a ….
Chris Vogel
It wasn’t just the meeting, remember. On the way home, Francis was asked about this. He was very explicit: not only did he admire Davis, but he enunciated a new Doctrine. He re-imagined the previous concept of conscientious objection (heretofore applying to those who did not want to go to war and kill people), now he authorises government employees everywhere to refuse to do anything that might trouble their consciences. Bureaucrats in southern Europe and Latin American can be difficult enough as it is; now they don’t even have to come in to work. This is Francis’ legacy.
Realitycheck
This is bull, the Pope meets hundreds or more people everyday, the meeting could have been arranged in many ways by many people.
If the Vatican representative say this was not a private audience and the Pope doesn’t support Davis nor did he get in to the details of her situations, then that is what it is.
The Vatican has zero to gain from trying to cover up, or lie a meeting with that crazy woman.
I would say Davis big $$ supporters arranged this and did it to exploit the pope
period.
I am not religious, I grew up roman catholic by force, and I am a proud atheist,
but I know enough how this works, the roman church has zero to gain by behaving this way, when the pope wants to make a statement he does and he doesn’t care who agrees or disagree with him.
vonric
One political commentator noted the high possibility that the (very conservative ) head of the embassy or consulate or whatever it is that the Vatican has in WDC commandeered the invite list for these “grab, bless and go” meetings…. and sneaked Davis in with the intent of commandeering the Pope’s position. Then, interestingly, the meeting was leaked to a conservative Catholic news rag…. and of course, Davis’s attorney aggrandized the meeting from a quickie to a massive and fundamental meeting of the minds….(the same attorney who was caught mis-identifying a huge assembly of people in, I believe, Peru, as a prayer meeting for Davis….. (her attorney could rival The Donald for hyperbole)
If that is true, then it just demonstrates that some parts of the church’s operations remain quite byzantine
Hardly takes the Pope off the hook, the entry gates to the mass here in Philly were bracketed by young men soliciting petition signatures for “marriage = one man/one woman” the Pope is radicalizing some positions… eg Global Warming but that does not make him a radical through and through
Juanjo
So instead of just making insulting comment about the Pope [and no, I am NOT a Catholic. In fact I am not a Christian] let’s look at what is coming out about this event. The Papal Nuncio in Washington invited the Adulteress of Kentucky to come to Washington. He put her in a reception line of people and she got a nod from the Pope and an aide to the Pope handed her a rosary. He had no information about who she was or what she was infamous for.
The Papal Nuncio was appointed by the former Pope, Benedict and he is a member of the hard right conservative faction which is less than happy with the direction the Pope has been leading things on social issues. In the next few months there is going to be a conclave of cardinals in Rome to discuss church business and the conservatives are jockeying all they can to embarrass the Pope and make their own faction stronger before that meeting.
While in Washington the Pope had ONE private audience with anyone. The audience was with Yayo Grassi, a gay man and former student of Pope Francis. Grassi brought his partner, Iwan Bagus, to a private meeting at the Papal Nunciature in Washington, DC on Sept. 23. At the meeting the Pope was aware of who Gagus was and his relationship to Grassi. There are photos and a video of them together with the Pope and of the Pope hugging them. There are no such photos of videos of the Pope with the Ho of Kentucky.
This entire Davis encounter was set up by the super conservative factions in the Roman Catholic Church to embarrass the Pope and strengthen their ow position. Shades of the Borgias.
NJjoe
The more I read and think about this, it appears it was more like a meet and greet and the Pope had no idea who this woman was. Yet Davis and her lawyer(s) have turned this into something like they had a private meeting, etc. And I’m thinking, why is he meeting with her, she’s not Catholic. Wow. There are so many words to describe this woman. She is beyond mentally whacked.
OhHellNo
Considering that Ol’ Cowface’s church doesn’t consider Catholics as good Christians, it just gets stupider every time she hits the news.
Davidlen
As suspected that bitch was after publicity, may a truck load of slushy turds envelope her ghastly face.
This tends to clarify matters…
Pope Francis held a private meeting with a same-sex couple in the United States the day before he met with Kim Davis, the county clerk who opposes same-sex marriage.
In an exclusive interview with CNN, Yayo Grassi, who along with his partner met the Pope, declined to disclose details about the short visit, but said it was arranged personally by Pope Francis, who is a longtime friend.
verylittlegravitasindeed
Why don’t you tell the rest of the story? That the Pope’s only scheduled private audience included a former aide and friend who happens to be gay, and his partner? I’m no fan of the catholic church for the most part but one sided reporting and deliberately hiding the truth, while accusing the Catholic church of doing the same thing is kinda hypocritical. Oh wait, no…not even kinda.
tsginamarieva
AN OPEN LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR KIM DAVIS
Dear Kim Davis,
I understand you’ve been through a lot these past several weeks, and I’m sure it’s all been very stressful. But I think you need to take a few minutes to cipher things through.
I know it’s terribly exciting to have all those TV cameras and reporters following you everywhere, recording your every hiccup, burp and butt sneeze (a Christian lady never farts!). And I’m sure it’s intoxicating to have so many wonderful Christians out there praying for you to triumph over that godless “rule of law,” the heathens care so much about. Holy Moly, even Pope Francis told you – in person – to, “stay strong,” and keep up the struggle. Imagine how much that would mean to you if you were Catholic!
(Although, if I’m being Jesus-honest, I’m not sure I’d bet a donor kidney on that helping too much to resolve this whole mess. The man talks funny, and when he’s not wearing dresses that would make Oprah cry, he’s walking around in an albino beanie and an ice cream suit! I don’t know whether he’s the Supreme Pontiff or Colonel Sanders.)
But, Sister Kimmie, bless your heart, you, me and the Virgin Mary know you shouldn’t have broken out your Crayolas and White-out and started monkeying around with Rowan County’s marriage license forms like they were your summer camp crafts project. You’re just supposed to sign the licenses, not turn them into homemade, “sorry you’re going to burn in Hell for all eternity,” sympathy cards! Even in Kentucky, people are going to notice that you took the county seal and your signature off of them! For gosh sakes, it would have been less noticeable if you’d Bedazzled the darned things!
And sure as Jesus made gluten-free cupcakes, that terrible judge will send you back to jail if he finds out! And trust me on this one, if you’re not big on homosexual sex, a women’s prison is the last place you want to go. I know, I’ve seen the movies.
Sister Kim, I say this with all of the love in my heart, you need to put things back the way they were on the marriage license form and apologize to the judge. And then grit your good tooth, sign the licenses, and wave and smile as “those people” prance all the way up the altar and straight down to their forever homes in the fiery bowels of Perdition!
In the end, you have to trust that the Almighty has a plan for you. A couple of months ago you were just little Kimmie Davis, Nobody from Nowhereville, Kentucky, double-digit I.Q., County Clerk for Rowan County. And now look at you! You’re speaking for every good Christian in America who hates homosexuals because God told them to! The heathens may have the law and the Supreme Court and the majority of people in the country on their side, but we’ve got you! And Mike Huckabee!
Who knows, Fox News or the TLC Network may even wind up giving you your own TV show! After all, you’re almost famous enough to be a Duggar Now!
Your Sister in Christ,
Gina Conners
drivendervish
I was absolutely disgusted with the Pope when I heard that he met with a criminal from hicktucky. But now it sounds like she just cut in line to be one of 100’s who walked through a receiving line at the nunciature. There is absolutely no way any Vatican official would ask her to disguise herself in any way. The Pope wouldn’t want to be involved with this kind of controversy so she probably disguised herself so Vatican officials wouldn’t prevent her from meeting the Pope. Republicans who support Kim are saying that it is OK to ignore the law. That people can just pick and choose which laws they want to follow which is no surprise since that’s how George W. Bush became president after losing the election to Al Gore.
Josh447
Bottom line, the Vatican had nothing to gain and a lot to lose with a meeting with Davis. It’s happening now. This wasn’t planned, they aren’t that stupid. This is either a set up by Davis or just an unfortunate scene. My sense is Francis would promote gay marriage if it weren’t for the matrix of social/spiritual sickiness the church maintains as it’s foundation for financial wealth. Very dirty stuff. Very dirty.
James
The vatican is lying.
billeetee
And so it boils down to “who do you believe”? I think that very probably ALL the scenarios in this story bear scrutiny as having some ‘credibility’. A Vatican Cartel, seeking vengeance against the Pope who put aside the red designer shoes in favor of something less garish. A Pope who seems to ‘speak his mind’ whenever he so has a chance. A Pope who has a penchant for getting down in the trenches with the ‘unwashed masses’ and reaching out. A Pope who seems to be unjudgmental according to The Vatican and Catholic Standards and Practices. It could be also that there WAS an invitation ‘sent out’ to Kim and Entourage by whose who would seek ANY and EVERY means to spread their lies and hatred and most of all their dubious and unsavory religious views. Of course we have an attorney with his eye on ‘National’ after Mark Omara’s Rise to Fame and National Spotlight through the ‘use of George Zimmerman’. And it could be that Kim Davis found the way to extend her fifteen minutes of infamy in order to assure that she has the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven or at least HER version of it. Either way, I’m one of the ones who have been hurt by this whole sordid affair.
I’m not Catholic, but I have been fascinated by this Pope and all that he seemed to represent and stand for. It was like a breath of fresh air to actually see a Holy of Holiest ‘doing his job’ for a change. Having been tremendously affected by the ceremony at the Museum in which it seemed that at last we were all coming together and unifying, this has ripped my heart out and seemingly made the tears I shed that afternoon, dry up and leave a bitter residue on my face.
I pray for the Pope that his eyes can be opened to what goes on around him.
Ogre Magi
Why do so many lgbt people insist on fawning over this old buzzard?
Giancarlo85
@aliengod: So you are saying the pope personally met with a lady he doesn’t even know? I am sure he knew the circumstances around it. Yeah cool story bro. Your nasty hatred of femininity is noted. Funny how the feminine guys are always far stronger and more brave than bigots like you.
NoCagada
@aliengod: WOW! You’re sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
BUTCH!
You BLEED butchness…kind of like the shower scene in CARRIE
aliengod
@NoCagada: Awe. Thanks. More middle of the road though. By the way, might want to wipe off your nose. You’ve got some remnants from Giancarlo’s ass on the tip. 😉
BBfun
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Lvng1Tor
Yet she still got an invite to meet the Pope. Not something that many people get. She wasn’t invited by the, surprisingly ill informed Vatican staff. Sure they just let anyone in without some background check…maybe a quick google search…something…anything…no…OK!?! She was invited by the American based Nunciature in DC…so something tells me the truth is somewhere in the middle. At the very least, someone in the Catholic church with enough pull thought it was a good thing for them to meet and does agree with her. That’s the very least…
woodroad34
@Grant Mealey: of course it all was. It was like watching a Third World variety show that’s cheaply made and poorly executed. It’s also like those moments in college when you’re stoned and turn on the TV and watch Reefer Madness on the late show.
woodroad34
@Lvng1Tor: she was embedded with The Little Sisters like a brood parasite.
fc
Pope Francis as the bishop of Buenos Aires used to welcome same sex partners in his masses and used to visit them and therefore he was considered “too modern” by other clergy members. So I really don’t believe he would be so stupid to have a private meeting with this whore to give her any kind of support. The fact here is much more aligned to politics than to religion. When it was announced that Francis would travel to Cuba and the USA the right wing and many clergy members in the country protested because they knew that in this trip he would publicly condemn the pedophile priests and also condemn the ways capitalism has taken the last years throwing people to misery and representing a serious threat to echology. He went to Cuba, met with Fidel Castro and proposed that 50 years of animosity between both countries should finally have and end and as far as we know he was well succedded.
In the USA he met with lots of people, spoke to the congressmen, his speeches on echology and human rights were applaused and welcomed even by those non catholics. One of this meetings was with that whore that immediately after it called the media and gave her own version of the event. Sounds weird that a figure of the importance of the Pope would be so stupid by meeting and supporting a completely unknown protestant woman who desobbeys the law. It simply does not make sense. And just remembering that the guests to the Nunciature in Washington were invited by american priests, the same who are against the modern ideas of the Pope and his condemnation of american pedophile priests. They simply wanted to destroy all positive effects of his trip but they failed.
Bjk
Has anyone actually seen the pope and kim in the same room at the same time? OMG THEY’RE THE SAME PERSON!!!
Lvng1Tor
@woodroad34: HA!
Giancarlo85
@aliengod: typical bigot. Now he is resorting to homophobia. He is so manly… Trying to impressive all his boneheaded straight guy friends. Maybe he will beat his chest… Too many steroids.
Rick Holtz
Two total douchebags.
Giancarlo85
@fc: Ignoring the facts. He outright condemned the Argentine government and personally went after Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner. If you had your priorities right, you would know Cristina Fernandez is the real ally of gay people in Argentina and Bergoglio never was.
Nahald
First off, it was confirmed that she only stood in a receiving line along with 50 others and just to shake the Pope’s hand. If she considers that to be a “meeting” then she is more delusional that I 1st thought. However, that still doesn’t give creedence to her thinking that just because her new found “religion” considers that gays beng married goes against her beliefs, then like a NORMAL person, who finds their job decription to be objectionable, she should resign. But it’s all about the $80K she gets to push around a few papers, isn’t it ?
Damon Robbins
JerseyMike
These two pasty face hags have taken up residents in your brains. Who cares about these two.. our world is changing for the better by the majority.. We are winning GOTDAMN!! These two don’t want to come to the party.. Fuck them!! they are not going to steal my joy.. Like I tell my 3 yr old niece..”see you later alligator”
RIGay
Okay, read the real story in this mornings newspaper – you know, the one done by reporters. She never met the pope. Some right-wingnut muckety muck got her invited to the Vatican embassy to trump up her story hoping to give her a few more weeks of any form of credibility.
In reality, the Pope met with a long time friend from Argentina… and HIS PARTNER OF MANY YEARS. THAT was outlined in DETAIL in today’s Providence Journal.
So… once again, we slam first, ask questions later.
Robert
To think I was starting to drink the Kool Ade. To those of you defending the Pope/Vatican need to brush up on the history of the Catholic Church. It’s not a pretty picture. I’m actually glad Davis disclosed this secret meeting. Now we know for sure where the Pope/Vatican stand on LGBT lives and issues. God made me the way I am and He doesn’t make mistakes. The Pope/Vatican/Catholic Church can just go to hell where they belong. Amen.
apenfieldt
Please if you want our respect stop publishing all this crap. She was a trick on the Pope. I of all people have a beef with the Catholic Church. I was raped and given HIV by one of their teachers. However I think truth is more important. You are participating in classic Yellow Journalism. Read the correct news stories and then shut up. All this blathering is pointless. Go out and feed someone dying of AIDS. We still do. Go out and care for someone alone. We still are. When is the time you all did something for someone in need. Kim Davis is a blip in time and your all making a mountain out of a mole hill does NOTHING except grow her. So stop it. Just stop it and get away from the computer and be a human. Care for someone. Then and only then can you say AMEN.
scotshot
@Bisexual-Transwoman:
Let’s clear this up for you:
The Pope is the head of the Catholic church.
Ms Davis is apostolic an offshoot of pentecostalism, both evangelical christian denominations.
scotshot
@Nahald:
Ms Davis has signed a seven figure (so she says) contract for a book about herself and her struggle. This will make a great chapter.
Anyone ever do a meet and greet in Vegas with whoever’s performing?
Agender JerBear
@NoCagada: Such misogynistic, sexist and effeminaphobic comments are disturbing to readers who are women, effeminate gay men or are trans/non-binary readers.
Wooly
Will Kimmy ever go away?
tusgold
The Pope was punked. He had no clue she was on the list. Meanwhile a gay man that Pope Francis taught and his lover met up with the Pope. Thaat was his favorite visitor that day. I believe Pope Francis said he was OK with civil unions. I am not Catholic but I love this Pope and he instills a stronger sense of spirituality. I can not explain why his tacit approval means so much to me