Much has been made of new Speaker Mike Johnson’s faith. The GOP lawmaker from Louisiana has made it clear that he uses the Bible as his instruction manual in all matters. He has consistently fought against LGBTQ+ rights, both as an attorney and representative.
Over the weekend, attention turned to his wife. Kelly Johnson, according to the speaker’s own website, is a “Licensed Christian Counselor and former school teacher”. They married in 1999 and are both active within the Louisiana Southern Baptist community.
HuffPost reported on Friday that Kelly runs Onward Christian Counseling Services. It dug around the business’s website. It offered a link to its 2017 operating agreement. This states the business operator’s belief that sex is offensive to God if it does not take place between a man and woman married to one another.
It went on to lump homosexuality in with bestiality and incest.
“We believe and the Bible teaches that any form of sexual immorality, such as adultery, fornication, homosexuality, bisexual conduct, bestiality, incest, pornography or any attempt to change one’s sex, or disagreement with one’s biological sex, is sinful and offensive to God.”
The agreement was signed, in his role as a public notary, by Mike Johnson.
Temperament counseling
Business Insider ran another report into Kelly Johnson’s business yesterday. It says her counseling service divides people into some rather antiquated personality types, loosely based on the teachings of the Greek physician Hippocrates.
So-called “Temperament counseling” splits people into the categories: Melancholy, Choleric, Sanguine, Supine, and Phlegmatic.
The system was devised by Richard and Phyllis Arno, who founded the National Christian Counselors Association in the 1980s. They were inspired by the work of a notorious homophobe called Tim LaHaye.
The National Christian Counselor’s Association encourages therapists and clients to fully engage with their faith, even if it means operating in an unorthodox way.
Kelly Johnson’s website made no explicit mention of offering conversion therapy. However, if it did so, it wouldn’t be against the law in Louisiana. The state has no conversion therapy ban.
It now emerges that Kelly’s website was taken down on Saturday afternoon, a day after the initial HuffPost report.
The Johnsons have not responded to requests for comment or explained why the website disappeared. It’s also unknown if Kelly Johnson will continue to offer her faith-based counseling following her husband’s meteoric political rise to Speaker of the House. She was pretty busy in the two weeks prior to his election on her knees, praying, according to her husband.
Fortunately, before it disappeared into the ether, a screenshot of Kelly’s website was saved to the Web Archive website. Others said taking the website down at this stage was a little too late.
Fear not. Safely stored here… https://t.co/yRadsO7Kt0
— Jules Ehrhardt (@ezyjules) October 30, 2023
Too late. You can run, but you can’t hide your extreme views, Mrs. Mikey.
— Jim Hagman, Ph.D. 🌝💙🏳️🌈🇺🇦🇺🇸 (@HagmanDr) October 30, 2023
But I thought these people were “proud” of their views?
— Tabi the Rabbi #NAFO 🇺🇦 (@TabiBlakemore) October 30, 2023
For those who are unaware: Conversion therapy is abuse. Sending someone to a “Christian counselor” in the hopes that said “counselor” convinces them to stop being gay is conversion therapy.
Wow what a surprise that the Christian Nationalist bigot who spent his career working for Alliance Defending Freedom and spewing hate just so happens to be married to another hateful bigot! Shocking! https://t.co/qJI0wXNdvx
— American Atheists (@AmericanAtheist) October 30, 2023
I thought they believed that “god didn’t make mistakes” and “everyone was made perfectly in his image”
— The Saurus (@TheSaurus831) October 30, 2023
Jenna Ellis defends Kelly Johnson
Kelly Johnson can perhaps take comfort that one person—besides her husband–supports her. That’s disgraced former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis, who last week pleaded guilty to election interference charges in Georgia.
In a tweet, Ellis said Kelly’s business was not equating gay sex with bestiality and she shouldn’t have taken down the site.
“The statement is providing examples of ‘any form’ of sexual immorality — not comparing or equating them. Further, it’s accurate. Each of those examples listed are in fact actions the Bible teaches are immoral.”
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cuteguy
These cult followers are dangerous. Furthermore their cherry picking is as obvious as their blatant hypocrisy and ignorance. The Bible clearly states that women are second class citizens and cannot teach man. So why is she willing to teach her “therapy” garbage to any man when the Bible clearly states she’s not allowed to. Oh wait, cherry picking.
Mattster
I’ll wait while she provides a biblical citation to prove that “…any attempt to change one’s sex, or disagreement with one’s biological sex, is sinful and offensive to God”.
She is yet another ignorant sanctimonious fool who wishes she could smite anyone she doesn’t like, for whatever reason, and uses the Bible as a prop.
BDAguy
Lest we forget, the husband is second in line to the Presidency, proving again that pure evil exists at the top of our government.
abfab
Hey! Kamala is 2nd in line.
abfab
First!
Kangol2
Abfab, VP Harris is first in line. Fanatic Johnson is second, I think. Yikes!
abfab
Yes, thank you. I would love to see her in the Oval Office god forbid something happens to President Biden.
Mister P
We must do what we can to block their vision for the world. They are sick and hate democracy.
ScottOnEarth
You are so right.
FreddieW
Well, she sounds just like the kind of people I was raised around. I even had that ridiculous Tim LaHaye book on the temperaments and medieval psychology when I was much younger. I still survived, found a partner, and came out. No, they didn’t kill me.
FreddieW
I remember that I identified with the Melancholy temperament. I’m much happier now.
Kangol2
They didn’t kill you but they tormented quite a few people, driving some to suicide. But knowing that you were subjected to this insanity does help me to understand your worldview a bit more, and I say that without sarcasm.
FreddieW
@Kangol2,
Yes, you are correct. And thanks.
abfab
She looks like the biblical and uptight Eliza Hassleback.
decrans
She was my favorite panelist on ‘The View’ after Sherri Shepherd, Jed Bila, and Meghan McCain.
cuteguy
@decrans if you were a fan of that garbage, what are you doing on this site? Better yet, get into therapy to help with your self hate
decrans
It’s cute that you think therapy is accessible in the American healthcare system.
dbmcvey
The troll is right. Our healthcare system is terrible.
dbmcvey
Of course, it’s largely because of Republicans that our healthcare system is so terrible.
decrans
It’s also largely because politicians like Cory Booker accept kickbacks from Big Pharma. But your little peabrain is so ensconced in the two-party system….
dbmcvey
Yes, Cory Booker is a whore. So was Lieberman, without whom we would have Medicare for All, but it still is the Republicans who don’t want us to have any healthcare at all and would rather you die than get free care.
dbmcvey
But your mustard seed brain is so washed you don’t know how stupid you are.
decrans
And how do you hold your precious Dems accountable to make those changes as opposed to whining about it every four years, your feckless little fuc–? That’s your party knows how to do. Sit the fuc- down, dumb Davey.
dbmcvey
You’re talking a few politicians as opposed to an entire party.
I’m not in Cory Booker’s state and I didn’t vote for him for President and I don’t donate to him.
You’re really stupid.
decrans
“Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the California Democrat expected to be the next speaker, the three-person House Democratic leadership team has collected more than $2.3 million total in campaign contributions from drugmakers.”
That’s your state, Davey. YOUR state.
decrans
“UnitedHealth has been good to Gov. Gavin Newsom.
In 2018, the health care giant made two contributions to Newsom for over $58,000. In December 2019, it dropped another $31,000 into his reelection campaign.
During the pandemic, Newsom turned to UnitedHealth to solve some of California’s most vexing challenges: COVID-19 testing and data tracking.”
Your governor, Dave. In YOUR state.
dbmcvey
Yeah, that’s terrible. Are you as mad at Republicans who get money from various industries? Instead of pointing fingers why, like me, don’t you try to get these donations made illegal.
dbmcvey
Also, troll, Biden has passed legislation to control Pharma prices. And Dems passed the ACA, which the Republicans have fooled their base into thinking is different than Obamacare but still try to weaken it as much as they can.
decrans
And Republicans tout price transparency in healthcare. Price transparency forces medical providers to compete on cost while empowering Americans to secure the best care for their unique needs at the lowest prices without the fear of surprise medical bills. Now barring insulin, corporate Democrats do not want price transparency. And why is that? See the below-mentioned OpenSecrets.org list where Democrats outnumber Republicans(!) on getting kickbacks from health care corporations.
abfab
This is not going to be an easy time for this disgustingly bigoted couple. Keep your eyes on them Queerty.
Fahd
More information than I care to know about this woman, but I’m glad others are watching closely.
Just as the Southern Poverty Law Center maintains a list of hate groups, one gay organization or another should systematically follow and list these anti-LGBTQ politicians and their associates.
abfab
Yes. And there are those organizations doing just that.
LumpyPillows
I’m at a loss. I have no idea how this will play out. Deleting the stuff is actually a good thing. It means they aren’t doubling down on it. Still….groan.
abfab
The lawyers made them do it.
Mister P
Kamala is first in line actually.
abfab
Yes, first. And she’d be wonderful.
dre23222
What are you talking? That don’t make any sense
Mister P
There is no problem with people like that existing. It’s when they get into power and want to force their sick religious ideals on everyone that it is a problem.
abfab
All while saying that GOD gives them a pass when they themselves reject those ideals they try to inflict on others. Kelly Johnson….we’re on to you and your wimpy husband.
Kangol2
The more that’s uncovered about Mike Johnson and his extremely homophobic frau, the worse they appear to be in terms of religious extremism.
Johnson is tied to the “Seven Mountains” Christian Dominionists, among other frightening coalitions, and he demonstrated in 2020 and 2021 that he has zero respect for democracy with his actions to try to help that corrupt psychopath Don the Con steal an election Don the Con lost by 7 million votes, after four years of utter chaos, culminating in a near societal and economic collapse in 2020, with nearly 1 million Americans dead from Covid-19.
And now this religious fanatic is the Speaker of the US House. There are more than enough parallels to the pre-Civil War US and to Weimar Germany, so I hope more Americans wake up ASAP.
Openminded
FACT CHECK: According to the CDC, 1.1 Million Americans have died from Covid so far. 400 Thousand of those died during Trump’s term which started out without Covid, NOR a Covid vaccine. Biden entered office shortly after the first vaccines became available and still has managed to have almost 50% more deaths on his hands than Trump. Add to that the fact that “Covid” was listed as the cause of death for many people who actually died in car accidents or other pre-existing conditions by hospitals looking for greater gov’t payouts.
I’m not trying to stump for Trump here. It’s just lying when you post false facts and it brings everything else you say into question by doing so.
dre23222
All of them are gutter trash. Hopefully they can go away and never be heard of again
Baron Wiseman
@dre23222
Yes, Kelly Johnson may actually pray for you. Can you imagine? Egads!
Den
“Hopefully they can go away and never be heard of again”
Hope will have nothing to do with it. We all have to vote in every upcoming election: local, state an federal, especially if we live in “purple” or red districts. And we have to urge everyone we know to do the same, even if they claim to be “non-political” or use the “both sides are the same” argument. We also have to communicate with our elected representatives when necessary, reminding them they work for us and not corporate donors or lobbyists. The Democratic party has a demonstrably greater commitment to ethics in government and democracy (though they clearly have failings) than the ever more backwards looking and corrupt republicans. We need to keep the white house, and establish strong Democratic majorities to minimize the damage MAGAts and Dominionists seek to do.
Mister P
It’s ironic that you support candidates who want to make the American healthcare system worse.
And Baron thinks that prayer works. If there were a god who cares the world would be a lot different. Ms Johnson wouldn’t be needed.
decrans
Do I support candidates making the healthcare system worse? Not really. I’m chiefly looking at third-party options. Until the Maine mass shooting, the Democrats have ignored the mental health crisis in our country. Why? Because asking too many questions touches the transgender third-rail. A large portion of trans people suffer from various mental illnesses. Mustn’t ask too many questions. Meanwhile, the Republicans do a similar song-and-dance with guns. So yeah, ‘making the healthcare industry worse” goes both ways with the major parties. Especially for de-transitioners like myself.
decrans
From my vantage point, the ‘right-wing’ listens to my poor healthcare outcomes as evidenced by Mike Johnson’s detransition panel. So yeah, I somewhat engage with that side. Both parties equally suck. I’ve said that since 2016. But I can admit that conservatives have valid arguments.
dbmcvey
The right wing wants you to die because you can’t afford healthcare.
decrans
And how many liberal politicians are in bed with Big Pharma, dumb little Davey boy? Idiot.
inbama
@decrans
I fully understand your animosity to Democrats. We pretend you don’t exist, and LGBTQIA+ shamelessly continues to tout Queer Theory and every lie of the gender industry. The only hope to save gay, lesbian and autistic kids from these ghouls in Blue States are lawsuits from detransitioners – which are starting to happen.
But on healthcare, my ex-addict handyman with a limited income has first class coverage with Alabama Blue Cross/Blue Shield for just $65 per month thanks to Obama and Pelosi. It’s not “universal care” and it’s not perfect, but it’s a great achievement and passed with no Republican help.
dbmcvey
How many Republicans are in bed with big pharma?
Your brain is completely smooth.
decrans
I posted two big-name politicians in YOUR state that you simp for Dave. (See above thread.) My point still stands, baby boy. Grow a spine.
decrans
Furthermore, Mike Johnson has $5000 in his banking accounts according to a new Daily Beast expose. Meanwhile, the last Dem Speaker had gold bars of ice cream in her stainless-steel fridge in Napa Valley. But hey, do some mind flips that your party stands firm for working-class values. (Eye rolls). It’s pure idiocy, Dave.
decrans
And look at all the Democrats outnumbering Republicans according to Open Secrets.org. Wowie, wow, wow, Dave! Fourteen vs. six! Have a seat, baby. I got you an ergonomic chair.
Top 20 Recipients
Rank Candidate Office Amount
1 Biden, Joe (D) $8,999,552
2 Trump, Donald (R) $2,836,975
3 Sanders, Bernie (I-VT) Senate $1,429,088
4 Harrison, Jaime (D-SC) $992,691
5 Ossoff, Jon (D-GA) $961,816
6 Buttigieg, Pete (D) $870,744
7 Warnock, Raphael (D-GA) $858,494
8 Warren, Elizabeth (D-MA) Senate $812,728
9 Kelly, Mark (D-AZ) Senate $604,190
10 McGrath, Amy (D-KY) $578,707
11 McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) Senate $572,153
12 Perdue, David (R-GA) Senate $570,922
13 Greenfield, Theresa (D-IA) $508,635
14 Gideon, Sara (D-ME) $480,891
15 Tillis, Thom (R-NC) Senate $476,112
16 Loeffler, Kelly (R-GA) Senate $456,004
17 McCarthy, Kevin (R-CA) House $454,988
18 Yang, Andrew (D) $410,502
19 Cunningham, Cal (D-NC) $394,451
20 Peters, Gary (D-MI) Senate $389,656
dbmcvey
Yes, the system is corrupt. We need to get this money out of politics. I’m happy to have that discussion, how about you?
In the meantime, Republicans want you to die because you can’t afford healthcare.
dbmcvey
Also, Biden has put through legislation that controls drug prices wheras Republicans just want people who can’t afford healthcare to die.
decrans
“We just gotta get this money outta politics!” That’s the same song-and-dance y’all idiots do every four years. You’re not serious. And then, you pull the lever for the same corporate politicians.
decrans
And I’ve had this discussion with you before. Things are not hunky dory with Big Government healthcare in YOUR OWN BACK YARD. ext year California will expand Medi-Cal eligibility to adults with low incomes who are ages 26 to 49 regardless of their immigration status. In L.A. County, approximately 70,000 patients currently served through the My Health LA program will become newly eligible for Medi-Cal.
This skyrocketing demand for services will inundate local departments like DPSS if they don’t act quickly to hire more agents and upgrade their phone and computer systems to allow patients to make simple changes online.
FACTS. And the same people your idiotic a$$ keeps voting for are not making the actions to change that, baby.
decrans
So, from the overloaded MediCal bureaucracy, we can also make inferences that corporate Democrats want the working class to die, too. HAVE A SEAT IN YOUR CHAIR, DAVE!
Openminded
DBMc- Biden has only managed to “open discussions” with Big Pharma on certain drug prices. There is no legislation passed requiring the price drops and no guarantee that we will see any prices drop. It is a step in the right direction, but it’s mostly smoke and fluff to make it sound like he’s providing help.
Openminded
decrans, on your first post you are exactly right. It took a school shooting by a trans person in a Nashville, TN school that Governor Lee’s wife has part timed at and was also a very close friend with a teacher there, who was one of the shooters victims, before the Governor announced that he would appoint a special committee to explore how to end the gun violence. It makes me sick to see the proof that these politicians are so out of touch with the population. Only when it gets so close that this friend, who was supposed to eat dinner with the Governor and his wife that night, gets killed by a shooter, does the Governor realize we have a gun problem and “possible” mental health issues to address.
GayEGO
Let’s face it, she’s a pig!